tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-71540016738524006252024-03-18T03:04:16.421+00:00THYSELF, O LORDSão Tomás de Aquino, o "Doutor Angélico", certa vez, diante de um crucifixo em Nápoles, ouviu estas palavras de Jesus:
“Bem tem você escrito sobre Mim, Tomás, o que devo te dar em recompensa?"
São Tomás respondeu: “Nada senão a Ti mesmo, meu Senhor". Em latim, São Tomás disse: Nil, Nisi Te, Domine. Em inglês: Naught save Thyself, O Lord.Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.comBlogger3868125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-72777310933970092102024-03-15T12:22:00.002+00:002024-03-15T12:22:29.242+00:00Rússia, em Guerra, Festeja Papa Francisco<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhC5LzPpm-9ehKVNUKRwRpx4aWKG-TiNmema-ZAKM3PUaYDQX6_LBmGQehpWEBUDfAJQQLbEHJ5jgsHRez46YM0ZE_wqsb_0uWrC13Y23lDS-PHATl1Ohb1BnvHn-cQWaazZWZ5_kp_b7IEVut5dfZlLI4pHS8Drz1Itczp6GM9oFf9NQHcheHAz-a3ke_I" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="515" data-original-width="587" height="350" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhC5LzPpm-9ehKVNUKRwRpx4aWKG-TiNmema-ZAKM3PUaYDQX6_LBmGQehpWEBUDfAJQQLbEHJ5jgsHRez46YM0ZE_wqsb_0uWrC13Y23lDS-PHATl1Ohb1BnvHn-cQWaazZWZ5_kp_b7IEVut5dfZlLI4pHS8Drz1Itczp6GM9oFf9NQHcheHAz-a3ke_I=w400-h350" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>Rússia não deixou escapar o aniversário de pontificado de Francisco para lhe agradecer o apoio na guerra, dizendo que ele é "um dos poucos líderes políticos do mundo com um ponto de vista realmente estratégico".<p></p><p>Francisco está do lado de gente como Lula (e também Bolsonaro) e Maduro. Esses líderes políticos globais com ótima estratégia para a destruição da humanidade.</p><p>Alguns podem dizer que Francisco está do lado de Orbán da Hungria. Mas eu tive a graça de visitar a Hungria já com a guerra iniciada e perguntei aos sempre informados taxistas (hehehe) o que achavam da guerra. Detalhe: Hungria faz fronteira com a Ucrânia. As informações que eu tive era que haviam muitos ucranianos na Hungria, que o Orbán estava fornecendo apoio todos, apesar de que os ucranianos preferiam ir para Alemanha onde tinham mais apoio de benesses estatais. E que Orbán estava certo em tentar conter os impactos da guerra. </p><p>O que quero dizer é que por estar tão perto do conflito, a análise sobre Orbán deve ser feita com mais cuidado. Eu não tenho tempo para me dedicar ao tema.</p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-73969092409016352002024-03-12T20:16:00.005+00:002024-03-12T20:26:33.143+00:00Francisco Pediu que Ucrânia Erguesse Bandeira Branca. Minha Opinião.<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjxmCi8UrTIw6SReEEohSO7fy_-ZrAALTyHYFPc1p9QkmH8eBUeUPLbMqVPc2xjDE4tsMFz_hkd1Dqfbcjb4WuZi26EZWWmPES1MUjaicDjDtLp7OWdkNXETTUMgfcvqcl7VD_y5jtuaGO6QxqCE9S9YYBldFC2pvOtSbk6aVxkYwmngqckmuaiFoQy06Fo" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="262" data-original-width="413" height="203" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjxmCi8UrTIw6SReEEohSO7fy_-ZrAALTyHYFPc1p9QkmH8eBUeUPLbMqVPc2xjDE4tsMFz_hkd1Dqfbcjb4WuZi26EZWWmPES1MUjaicDjDtLp7OWdkNXETTUMgfcvqcl7VD_y5jtuaGO6QxqCE9S9YYBldFC2pvOtSbk6aVxkYwmngqckmuaiFoQy06Fo" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Realmente, como disse<a href="https://the-american-catholic.com/2024/03/11/popewatch-white-flag/"> Donald McClarey do site The American Catholic</a>: "Talvez não seja o maior de seus defeitos, mas o Papa é um dos homens mais burros que já foi Papa. Lançar sugestões políticas através de entrevistas, como ele faz constantemente, é um erro que poucos padres em primeiro ano de sacerdócio cometeriam."</p><p>Recentemente em entrevista, Francisco, com aquele modo de falar que me faz lembrar de professores de sociologia, disse que a "Ucrânia devia ter a coragem de levantar a bandeira branca e negociar o fim da guerra com a Rússia".</p><p>Vários sites de notícia do mundo repercutiram a entrevista e a Ucrânia reagiu contra as palavras de Francisco.<a href="https://ugcc.ua/en/data/statement-of-the-permanent-synod-of-the-ugcc-in-light-of-the-interview-of-pope-francis-conducted-by-radio-tlvision-suisse-955/"> O Sínodo da Igreja Católica Grega divulgou uma declaração contra o papa.</a></p><p>No Brasil, eu não sigo os jornais, mas a minha família assina a Revista Oeste e o site Não é Imprensa.</p><p>O site Não é Imprensa tem entre os sócios um amigo. O site é cegamente a favor da Ucrânia, então desceu a lenha nas palavras do Papa. Eu sou a favor da Ucrânia, considero que o lado da justiça da guerra está do lado da Ucrânia, mas reconheço quão corrupto é o país e quão ruim é a liderança de Zelensky. E como a guerra só terá solução se Ocidente entrar militarmente no país, além de rasgar dinheiro dando para Ucrânia e enviar armas, correndo o risco da Rússia lançar armas nucleares.</p><p>O site é muito bom em críticas às barbaridades jurídicas e políticas brasileiras, por isso mantenho a assinatura, mas considero o site muito fraco em política internacional, fraquíssimo, então para não ficar chateando muito, eu evito comentar sobre esse assunto no site.</p><p>No entanto, em um desses textos do site, em um texto escrito por Diogo Mainardi, que é grosseiramente pró-Ucrânia, eu disse:</p><p><span face="system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"" style="background-color: #efefef; color: #404040; font-size: 15px;">"O mundo perverteu até a frase bíblica "se sim, sim, se não, não". Uma pessoa ou é petista ou é bolsonarista. Ou é Zelensky ou é Putin. Não há análise da realidade complexa. Este texto de Mainardi é um exemplo deste maniqueismo mundano. </span><span face="system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"" style="background-color: #efefef; color: #404040; font-size: 15px;">Sim, este papa é um flagelo. Eu o considero herético em várias doutrinas católicas. Seguramente um dos piores papas da Igreja. </span></p><p><span face="system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"" style="background-color: #efefef; color: #404040; font-size: 15px;">Mas sobre a Ucrânia, este país só recuperará Crimeia e Donbass se o Ocidente entrar com seus próprios soldados na guerra e aceitar milhões de mortos. A Rússia conquistou essas regiões durante governo Obama, em 2014. Obama, com aquela cara de pastel, não fez nada. </span><span face="system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"" style="background-color: #efefef; color: #404040; font-size: 15px;">A Rússia possui o maior arsenal nuclear do mundo. Até onde o Ocidente deve ir para recuperar isso? </span><span face="system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"" style="background-color: #efefef; color: #404040; font-size: 15px;">A sugestão do papa é péssima, porque é um armistício sem paz. Mas poupa milhões de mortos. </span><span face="system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"" style="background-color: #efefef; color: #404040; font-size: 15px;">Estamos brincando com fogo por Crimeia e Donbass para um país tão corrupto quanto a Rússia."</span></p><p>Complemento:</p><p>Eu não tenho a solução. Sim, papa foi burro em termos de ato e aparência, não se diz o que ele diz em entrevista pública, e a sugestão é horrível para o país que sofreu a agressão russa. Mas o mundo está cansado da guerra e brinca com fogo. Se a Ucrânia levantar a bandeira branca será péssimo para todos os países que jogaram rios de dinheiro e armamentos no país. Ucrânia não fará isso sem consultar aqueles que estão pagando. O melhor para o mundo seria o fim de Putin e de sua política, por isso mesmo Putin vive cercadíssimo de guardas costas.</p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-16213053719542756352024-03-11T20:49:00.007+00:002024-03-11T21:16:47.379+00:00Por Que Trump? Thomas Sowell, Victor Hanson, Ed. Feser e Outros<iframe frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://youtube.com/embed/a-Qweh898nw?si=zckhv2b4arhfxfAl" width="480"></iframe><div><br /></div><div>No Brasil, nós temos também, além dos esquerdistas (que costumam estar do lado errado), os "nevertrumpers", aqueles que se dizem de direita ou contra a esquerda mas que odeiam o Trump. Penso em gente como o Diogo Mainardi, que apoia Biden e odeia Trump, mas odeia o PT e Lula. Gente realmente estranha. Para mim, apoiar Biden é ser mais estúpido e senil que o próprio Biden e só pode ser justificado em termos lógicos por alguém que realmente deseja a destruição dos Estados Unidos e as consequências disso. </div><div><br /></div><div>No vídeo, acima o brilhante economista Thomas Sowell explica que aqueles que odeiam Trump tomaram uma vacina contra fatos, pois Trump foi um sucesso em muitas áreas. Sowell diz que detesta ver Trump na televisão mas reconhece seu enorme sucesso, só existe uma pessoa que Sowell detesta mais na TV do que Trump, é Obama, hehehe.</div><div><br /></div><div>O historiador <a href="https://www.amazon.com/-/pt/dp/B07MVK4KX9/ref=sr_1_4?crid=ASCL9RKWYLS8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Ngz0wO4oRjWMVH3ISL-JJhCQmy4HSFVsKR42e1koSagUk8n5s0o-chhYv6u5pbqHmGmjTWvIo6BuxpQiYn58ADC0hDzvOKU3JCWuVql6HQRtEZqye2Bp3x1f44vg67CA0KKPgUh39v4RLAKAGxasYJEl9n2TbQHUPkpyzC9MPf-3a91-yZki20y80sQw8EvC6PFpIQx9jTUCkkGtHmSL1MqdNOyX3h7UsorTm36LSrJH9gDuHdLdfZ2oedsGpFvPtFYPDLE50ciWBdEtXYghwjjJH1PAIrOzR5chqePyjxQ.wSDC9c52WG3ZOSNT8TW7P99Bk0ZQCHJWr_48nto5Dk0&dib_tag=se&keywords=victor+davis+hanson%2C+author&qid=1710188926&sprefix=victor+da%2Caps%2C229&sr=8-4">Victor Davis Hanson já escreveu um livro sobre o sucesso de Trump como presidente, chamado The Case for Trump</a>, mas ele também já declarou que preferia outro candidato no lugar de Trump nas eleições deste ano, por conta da personalidade de Trump que dificultaria suas políticas. Quero dizer com isso que Hanson não é uma analista trumpista cego.</div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEizozS4R1wRAvVs7YWNyZIORW2mZjPyI4zZfpB2TOik-MnQO92Z9MtAyMCjLdhUT2-B0vcY0QH7BIub8gZ1aOjCH3mdvgQlIzlqFrffIREBhjeJ9xBj853FmITpQeAgDM5gU25c1YLlvoqRoyZWUKOTsYu975pzMi1hHmCwU9VQscV1JIbt71Pv9qZjRxcL" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="238" data-original-width="242" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEizozS4R1wRAvVs7YWNyZIORW2mZjPyI4zZfpB2TOik-MnQO92Z9MtAyMCjLdhUT2-B0vcY0QH7BIub8gZ1aOjCH3mdvgQlIzlqFrffIREBhjeJ9xBj853FmITpQeAgDM5gU25c1YLlvoqRoyZWUKOTsYu975pzMi1hHmCwU9VQscV1JIbt71Pv9qZjRxcL" width="244" /></a></div><br />Com a vitória de Trump nas primárias, Hanson não tem alternativa melhor. É Trump. Recentemente, Hanson disse que os jovens americanos estão com Trump (vídeo abaixo).</div><div><br /></div><div><iframe frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://youtube.com/embed/QDB2QPQFZS4?si=wVVMyg4tLq-31oV1" width="480"></iframe></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>O filósofo católico, Edward Feser, explicou outro ponto positivo de Trump, além de seu sucesso como presidente: a estupidez da esquerda. Disse ele: " Se você não gosta de Trump, pare de defender políticas (gênero, crime, imigração, raça, etc.) que são manifestamente contrárias ao senso comum que colocam as pessoas normais na posição de que não há alternativa, a não ser Trump."</div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjktFhe1GcYsFxALpbsKCzgXblmQ4n8_MUxJlMmWo7komBZYXFQJlFstwSDBWjh1hQ-ntuwmgDRar4jnKKWJKZwDQReM2cR7UvIp7sUV9BZUG-Oa3jMOOyJPhKTBAS4Xl20XNdS4aHUgSrJezIY4cyQQyg2xEIZ2wVdZ8kFYFvv4Pc37mX_gqW1ATv8_cRV" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="190" data-original-width="585" height="208" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjktFhe1GcYsFxALpbsKCzgXblmQ4n8_MUxJlMmWo7komBZYXFQJlFstwSDBWjh1hQ-ntuwmgDRar4jnKKWJKZwDQReM2cR7UvIp7sUV9BZUG-Oa3jMOOyJPhKTBAS4Xl20XNdS4aHUgSrJezIY4cyQQyg2xEIZ2wVdZ8kFYFvv4Pc37mX_gqW1ATv8_cRV=w640-h208" width="640" /></a></div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div>Outro dia, um jornal inglês explicou por que os eleitores de Trump votam nele. Eles não votam na pessoa de Trump, mas nas políticas obviamente corretas que Trump defende.</div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgtM07a0azcZp6bvkkfv-vOptVSzjshKIrLC5zBLAgh9SxGu7rxCoiLcCzxrRU1HSeUm0xaHIO9u9cFOdi9G-ZGVR54XKjanyu0ckjmKvXFhySj7jiM-UKJsX4uJvsKIBdcIiIKmEGeqAxWM9P4uDOJ454WVfF5f0Qz-fd_lyINmGfDSxkfn_UFgQgdqRjK" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="551" data-original-width="466" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgtM07a0azcZp6bvkkfv-vOptVSzjshKIrLC5zBLAgh9SxGu7rxCoiLcCzxrRU1HSeUm0xaHIO9u9cFOdi9G-ZGVR54XKjanyu0ckjmKvXFhySj7jiM-UKJsX4uJvsKIBdcIiIKmEGeqAxWM9P4uDOJ454WVfF5f0Qz-fd_lyINmGfDSxkfn_UFgQgdqRjK=w541-h640" width="541" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Não se pode confundir Trump com Bolsonaro (que é muito mais parecido com Biden, homem de centrão), nem com Milei (Trump não é libertariano). Trump está mais próximo de Viktor Orbán, apesar de Orbán ter tido uma carreira como político contra o comunismo e nunca ter sido empresário de sucesso, como Trump foi, o pensamento político, social e ético de Orbán é muito parecido com o de Trump.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Eu, digo: Go Trump!!</span></div><br /><br /></div><div><br /></div>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-85039971806551884192024-03-09T14:28:00.000+00:002024-03-09T14:28:08.657+00:00Os Estragos do Fiducia Supplicans Continuam<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjB89-xg2FdTSvh-VOZ3GTunHI2P-LVkXGNHYt6Na-5zQ3njiEYyqiDejhl0sr3cv4iOkaztrswnOTurMgqPNGoOOqHrLZ1LHpRGegvGQdA7Ums0BZSylE5YzdPl2yk9htEP8TEALes70pfp2pVilzsiNQyXk1GSvEHRHCMENUJMpQb15kaliNEXrS5dry9/s878/2024_03_09_11.18.14_edit.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="625" data-original-width="878" height="228" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjB89-xg2FdTSvh-VOZ3GTunHI2P-LVkXGNHYt6Na-5zQ3njiEYyqiDejhl0sr3cv4iOkaztrswnOTurMgqPNGoOOqHrLZ1LHpRGegvGQdA7Ums0BZSylE5YzdPl2yk9htEP8TEALes70pfp2pVilzsiNQyXk1GSvEHRHCMENUJMpQb15kaliNEXrS5dry9/s320/2024_03_09_11.18.14_edit.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><p><br /></p><p>O documento Fiducia Supplicans do Papa Francisco, que aprova bênção "não litúrgica" para casais gays continua fazendo estrago. </p><p>A Igreja Ortodoxa Copta suspende relações com a Igreja Católica por conta do documento e a Comissão Bíblico-Teológica Ortodoxa Russa e a Conferência dos Bispos Católicos da Rússia rejeitaram fortemente as bênçãos do documento.</p><p>Vejam tradução dos relatos feitos na mídia sibre esses dois fatos:</p><p>1) <a href="https://ocpsociety.org/coptic-church-synod-rejects-same-sex-relations-suspends-dialogue-with-catholics/">Igreja Copta Ortodoxa Suspende Relações com Igreja Católica por conta do Fiducia Supplicans. </a></p><p> Sínodo da Igreja Copta Ortodoxa rejeita relações entre pessoas do mesmo sexo e suspende diálogo com católicos. A sessão plenária do Santo Sínodo da Igreja Copta Ortodoxa foi realizada em 07 de março de 2024, no Centro Logos da Residência Papal no Mosteiro de Santo Anba Bishoy em Wadi Natroun, chefiada por Sua Santidade o Papa Tawadros II, e com a presença de 110 dos seus 133 membros. O Papa da Igreja Copta fez um discurso na abertura da sessão, no qual falou sobre a importância do fruto na vida e no serviço do pastor através da “parábola da figueira infrutífera” (Lucas 13,6-9) .As principais comissões do Santo Sínodo realizaram as suas reuniões anuais a partir da passada segunda-feira e durante três dias, na sede papal na Catedral de São Marcos, em Abbasiya, para discutir os relatórios que lhes foram apresentados pelas suas subcomissões. Emitiu as suas recomendações, que foram apresentadas aos membros da Academia na sessão plenária de hoje para aprovação.</p><p>A Igreja anunciou a sua opinião sobre a questão da “homossexualidade” através de uma declaração emitida pelo Santo Sínodo (a ser publicada posteriormente). Na sua declaração, a Igreja enfatizou a sua rejeição das relações entre pessoas do mesmo sexo. Apoiando a sua opinião com muitos versículos bíblicos que declaram claramente a rejeição de tais relacionamentos que são contrários à natureza humana que Deus criou.</p><p> Entre as decisões e recomendações do Santo Sínodo – sessão de março de 2024 estão:</p><p><b>Após consulta às igrejas irmãs da família Ortodoxa Oriental, foi decidido suspender o diálogo teológico com a Igreja Católica, reavaliar os resultados que o diálogo alcançou desde o seu início há vinte anos e estabelecer novos padrões e mecanismos para que o diálogo prossiga.</b></p><p> <b>A Igreja Copta Ortodoxa afirma a sua firme posição de rejeição de todas as formas de relações homossexuais, porque violam a Bíblia Sagrada e a lei pela qual Deus criou o homem homem e mulher, e considera que qualquer bênção, qualquer que seja o seu tipo, para tais relações é uma bênção para o pecado, e isso é inaceitável.</b></p><p> </p><p>2. <a href="https://www.ncregister.com/blog/russia-prelates-criticize-fiducia">Prelados ortodoxos e católicos na Rússia criticam duramente os ‘suplicantes de Fiducia’</a></p><p> Os bispos católicos da Rússia e membros da comissão Bíblico-Teológica da Igreja Ortodoxa Russa criticaram Fiducia Supplicans, a declaração do Papa Francisco que permite a bênção de casais do mesmo sexo e outras pessoas em “relacionamentos irregulares”.</p><p> <b>Numa declaração de 1º de março, após uma assembleia plenária de dois dias em Listvyanka, perto de Irkutsk, no sul da Rússia, a Conferência dos Bispos Católicos da Rússia enfatizou que “para evitar a tentação e a confusão”, eles desejavam chamar a atenção para o fato de que “as bênçãos de qualquer tipo de casal que persista em relacionamentos moralmente irregulares do ponto de vista cristão (coabitação, novo casamento ou do mesmo sexo) são inaceitáveis”.</b></p><p> Os bispos sublinharam que, apesar da confusão que se seguiu à divulgação do documento, o ensinamento católico sobre família e casamento “permanece inalterado” e que a Igreja “abençoa e envolve as uniões conjugais e as famílias com cuidado pastoral”.</p><p> <b>Na sua declaração, os bispos da Rússia também sublinharam a diferença entre bênçãos e orações: “No espírito da caridade evangélica e do amor materno, a Igreja não recusou e não recusa a oração intercessória a indivíduos numa ampla variedade de situações, pedindo a ajuda de Deus. graça para convertê-los, para fortalecê-los em suas boas intenções, para iniciar ou continuar o caminho da justiça</b>”.</p><p><b>Os bispos foram liderados pelo Arcebispo Paul Pezzi, de Moscou, e pelo chefe da Conferência Episcopal da Rússia, Dom Kirill Klimovich, de Irkutsk. Entre os participantes da reunião de 28 a 29 de fevereiro estava o núncio apostólico na Rússia, dom Giovanni D'Aniello.</b></p><p> A <b>declaração deles ocorreu logo após uma reunião on-line em 20 de fevereiro da Comissão Bíblico-Teológica do Patriarcado de Moscou da Igreja Ortodoxa Russa, na qual os membros da comissão disseram que Fiducia Supplicans refletia um forte afastamento do ensino moral cristão, de acordo com relatórios.</b></p><p> <b>Os membros da comissão presentes na reunião, convocada pelo Patriarca Ortodoxo Russo Kirill para analisar o documento, chegaram à conclusão de que “as Sagradas Escrituras não podem justificar de forma alguma esta nova prática”.</b></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-52988896770462823542024-03-07T18:36:00.003+00:002024-03-07T18:48:36.534+00:00Há 750 Anos<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5kvU__W8iZGikgn0SeBTIk197eqdRpGyqVm69K7zme7a4ikKf3k6jWDfWeGEtcN7ExTNkODTOm24QXVZTD1ngu975zc4wFhp0Y_9JoxKdidsMdwXIycHA9BOqSkBucXEwSi3jhGkHJK6XrBKgPvCzRb2eDxuWF1pjX6ESgCEzYUEmm3SLsl-Ttth0qghs/s1210/2024_03_07_15.32.44_edit.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1210" data-original-width="934" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5kvU__W8iZGikgn0SeBTIk197eqdRpGyqVm69K7zme7a4ikKf3k6jWDfWeGEtcN7ExTNkODTOm24QXVZTD1ngu975zc4wFhp0Y_9JoxKdidsMdwXIycHA9BOqSkBucXEwSi3jhGkHJK6XrBKgPvCzRb2eDxuWF1pjX6ESgCEzYUEmm3SLsl-Ttth0qghs/s320/2024_03_07_15.32.44_edit.jpg" width="247" /></a></div><p><br /></p>Há 750 anos morria o maior filósofo de todos os tempos, Tomás de Aquino. Após ele, basicamente é só decadência. Estamos há séculos em decadência filosófica, como apenas solavancos de brilhantismo tomista.<div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><p></p><p><br /></p></div>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-12330891316815373422024-03-07T18:04:00.003+00:002024-03-07T18:07:13.760+00:00Guerra da Ucrânia: Do Pior Para o Secundo Pior<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjs4HPLsJME8Q08uBdgNGxy5ixXoH69oKKFG9RSC-1LUsrBklqka5K6HO8KdJuzYG9NPCge98fyMS9pdnV8aVxNnxxk9wlbI-ZYqnbeBFa06MG7f4DHqfGb8f_mzpmx_2dyMM5zLwxNCBL-h0lo47CwoldyIfA7mzoiDva-mZ85bKsuyeAC3yXY9XLb9zqE" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="269" data-original-width="473" height="182" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjs4HPLsJME8Q08uBdgNGxy5ixXoH69oKKFG9RSC-1LUsrBklqka5K6HO8KdJuzYG9NPCge98fyMS9pdnV8aVxNnxxk9wlbI-ZYqnbeBFa06MG7f4DHqfGb8f_mzpmx_2dyMM5zLwxNCBL-h0lo47CwoldyIfA7mzoiDva-mZ85bKsuyeAC3yXY9XLb9zqE" width="320" /></a></div><p><br /></p><a href="https://victorhanson.com/the-ukrainian-verdun-2/">Em artigo publicado hoje o historiador militar Victor Davis Hanson argumenta que a Guerra da Ucrânia já provocou milhares de mortos e fuga de milhões da Ucrânia</a>. Ele centra suas críticas em Obama que permitiu que a Rússia anexasse a Crimeia e a região de Donbass em 2014 e não fez nada. Trump, em seguida, os países europeus, e Biden, também nada fizeram para que a Ucrânia retomasse os territórios.<p></p><p>Para Hanson, um acordo de paz agora iria deixar a Rússia com essas regiões tomadas em 2014, pois não se vislumbra possibilidade de retomada dessas regiões pela Ucrânia totalmente dependente do apoio militar do Ocidente, e o acordo possivelmente permitira uma militarização da Ucrânia mas não seu ingresso na OTAN.</p><p>Para Hanson, no entanto, isso parece o melhor que se pode conseguir com essa guerra que está ossificada, sem que nenhuma parte avance.</p><p>Hanson diz que: "a única coisa pior do que um armistício sem vencedor ou perdedor claro é uma guerra sem fim com mais de um milhão de vítimas.".</p><p>Eu entendi o que ele disse. Mas penso que o possível acordo imaginado por Hanson seria um armistício sem um vencedor claro. Então, o acordo apenas nos dará a segunda pior possibilidade. Passaríamos do pior para o segundo pior, depois de milhares de mortos e assim a guerra continuaria rondando a região.</p><p>Sem falar que todos os países ocidentais que apoiaram a Ucrânia com milhões e milhões de recursos se sentiriam derrotados. Talvez mais derrotados que a própria Ucrânia.</p><p>Eu não tenho a solução nesta guerra entre países irmãos e países muito corruptos. 2014 realmente foi uma desgraça que ocorreu sob o olhar do Prêmio Nobel da Paz Obama (que não fez nada), agora a cura é bem mais difícil e sangrenta. Se Putin morrer pode ocorrer mudanças significativas positivas, mas as consequências podem não significar o fim do conflito. É preciso entender a Rússia que é, como disse Churchill, um enigma envolto em um mistério.</p><p>Em todo caso, o texto de Hanson é um ótimo artigo frente ao que se ler no Brasil por exemplo, que em geral vemos textos que usam adjetivos contra Putin sem qualquer análise séria sobre a guerra.</p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-69763640235627709332024-03-05T15:17:00.004+00:002024-03-05T15:19:07.771+00:00A "Filha Mais Velha da Igreja" Despreza Igreja Há Séculos. Só Piora<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi0rfl_vydhR-ES0lLtbNsn_md_rsbUMUQ4Us_AG7CN68EuDycndwrTAmD-yidOmGVCDJwkxWHrehdr9Vt15lZYLbWOc0fQ4xkXDFiE8GT5EvFYztWZtg-LNsAtPGhyIRiuwXHVKiIWeCpY3n2HaIpid9yJ3U6FDIi27gglq_fuI5JzWhcTHcNmoj-XFVz2" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="400" data-original-width="654" height="196" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi0rfl_vydhR-ES0lLtbNsn_md_rsbUMUQ4Us_AG7CN68EuDycndwrTAmD-yidOmGVCDJwkxWHrehdr9Vt15lZYLbWOc0fQ4xkXDFiE8GT5EvFYztWZtg-LNsAtPGhyIRiuwXHVKiIWeCpY3n2HaIpid9yJ3U6FDIi27gglq_fuI5JzWhcTHcNmoj-XFVz2" width="320" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjPMWeuFSf1IMEHUFMhjKFBWl-PLv9Dgi9IZg4zpl2Hwoxw6arOR-hPEHsx-3opQgiNm_7A26TN-U6kPuCABL1sBvfjL3gabhmUR2TawO_06apoMeyHE_lWFVclObAcjXJbJn7auS_IbaSPO0iedUbM6s-2X-4f8wifeOZrnuotwYIr6xD57Y13j8nc4Iv3" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="551" data-original-width="470" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjPMWeuFSf1IMEHUFMhjKFBWl-PLv9Dgi9IZg4zpl2Hwoxw6arOR-hPEHsx-3opQgiNm_7A26TN-U6kPuCABL1sBvfjL3gabhmUR2TawO_06apoMeyHE_lWFVclObAcjXJbJn7auS_IbaSPO0iedUbM6s-2X-4f8wifeOZrnuotwYIr6xD57Y13j8nc4Iv3=w342-h400" width="342" /></a></div><span style="text-align: left;"> </span></div><p></p><p>A França é chamada, dentro da Igreja Católica, de a "filha mais velha". Pelo que li, o costume de chamá-la assim foi iniciado com Clovis, o primeiro rei franco a ser batizado como cristão em 496. Na Europa, foi a primeira conversão de um monarca ao catolicismo. </p><p>Mas o desprezo a Igreja Católica remonta séculos. Todos os filósofos que fundamentaram a revolução francesa (Diderot, Voltaire,...) no século 18 tinham basicamente uma característica comum: deploravam a Igreja Católica. </p><p>Ontem e hoje temos duas notícias terríveis vindas da "filha mais velha":</p><p>1) <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/04/europe/france-abortion-constitution-intl/index.html">França se tornou o primeiro país do mundo a considerar um direito constitucional a matança de crianças no útero materno</a>. Foram 780 votos a favor, apenas 72 contra!</p><p>E colocaram o letreiro estúpido que não tem sentido nem lógico, nem biológico: "meu corpo, minha escolha" na Torre Eiffel. </p><p>2) <a href="https://www.lefigaro.fr/sports/jeux-olympiques/jo-paris-2024-la-croix-du-dome-des-invalides-remplacee-par-une-fleche-sur-l-affiche-officielle-20240305">França apagou a a Cruz de Cristo que ornamentava o Les Invalides em propaganda ara as Olimpíadas de 2024</a>.</p><p>Já fui ao país a passeio e a trabalho, mas em toda a minha vida eu nunca gritei "Vive La France". O país há muito apresenta comportamento que deploro. Em matéria de promover heresias, eu realmente não sei quem é pior: França ou Alemanha.</p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-51827082720456185672024-03-01T00:28:00.001+00:002024-03-01T00:28:26.985+00:00Cardeal Escreve Anonimamente sobre Como Próximo Papa Pode Curar Pontificado de Francisco<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQelxG7U8whWNfqXKjdSZ0LnSDQEvXxkQ5rpLYC3yAKBa_y1LYvusrjfRvASLpQnJkVmLAJ2pbs-RmS7-5fSlYn1cjWfGjPgAlXUlYPYdAds5PqT1rJUlt0PYtWq8o8pTaDr3Ga9vZyOkeRZcSnRo4cl-NfzyFy-QG92tnTwXKLsDsQa87p1c6PtjP2HAS/s360/demosII-768x403-360x190.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="190" data-original-width="360" height="169" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQelxG7U8whWNfqXKjdSZ0LnSDQEvXxkQ5rpLYC3yAKBa_y1LYvusrjfRvASLpQnJkVmLAJ2pbs-RmS7-5fSlYn1cjWfGjPgAlXUlYPYdAds5PqT1rJUlt0PYtWq8o8pTaDr3Ga9vZyOkeRZcSnRo4cl-NfzyFy-QG92tnTwXKLsDsQa87p1c6PtjP2HAS/s320/demosII-768x403-360x190.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><p>O site New Daily Compass publicou hoje uma carta assinada por um cardeal que assina como Demos II.</p><p>Um outro cardeal já tinha escrito uma carta e assinado como Demos anteriormente. Depois disseram que o Demos era o falecido cardeal Pell. Agora temos o Demos II.</p><p>O título do texto do Demos II é <a href="https://newdailycompass.com/en/a-profile-of-the-next-pope-writes-cardinal">A Profile of the Next Pope.</a> (Um Perfil para o Próximo Papa). O texto foi disponibilizado em 6 línguas. Por conta do título do texto nas diferentes línguas, eu suspeito que o cardeal seja de língua espanhola, pois o título do texto em espanhol é diferente é "Retrato Robô do Próximo Papa". </p><p>O texto traz 7 coisas que o próximo papa deve reconhecer para que a Igreja se cure dos efeitos do pontificado de Francisco. No final do texto do cardeal "Demos II" explica por que assinou o texto de forma anónima.</p><p>TEXTO É EXCELENTE!</p><p>Traduzo o texto do cardeal "Demos II" abaixo.</p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;">Um perfil do próximo Papa, escreve Cardeal</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">O Vaticano amanhã</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Em março de 2022, apareceu um texto anônimo – assinado sob o pseudônimo “Demos” e intitulado “O Vaticano Hoje” – que levantava uma série de sérias questões e críticas sobre o pontificado do Papa Francisco. As condições na Igreja desde a publicação desse texto não mudaram materialmente, muito menos melhoraram. Portanto, as reflexões aqui apresentadas pretendem desenvolver essas reflexões originais à luz das necessidades do Vaticano de amanhã.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Os últimos anos de um pontificado, de qualquer pontificado, são o momento de avaliar a situação da Igreja no presente e as necessidades da Igreja e dos seus fiéis no futuro. É claro que os pontos fortes do pontificado do Papa Francisco são a sua insistência na compaixão pelos fracos, na ajuda aos pobres e marginalizados, na preocupação com a dignidade da criação e nas questões ambientais que dela decorrem, e nos esforços para acompanhar aqueles que sofrem e estão alienados em seus fardos.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">As suas falhas são igualmente óbvias: um estilo de governo autocrático, por vezes parecendo vingativo; um desprezo para as questões de direito canônica; intolerância mesmo diante de divergências respeitosas; e – o que é mais grave – um estilo persistente de ambiguidade em questões de fé e moral que causa confusão entre os fiéis. A confusão gera divisão e conflito. Isso mina a confiança na Palavra de Deus. Enfraquece o testemunho evangélico. O resultado disto é uma Igreja mais fraturada do que em qualquer momento da sua história recente.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">A tarefa do próximo pontificado deve ser, portanto, recuperar e restabelecer verdades que foram lentamente obscurecidas ou perdidas entre muitos cristãos. Estes incluem, mas não estão limitados a, aspectos básicos como os seguintes: (a) ninguém é salvo exceto através de Jesus Cristo, e somente através dele, como Ele mesmo deixou claro; (b) Deus é misericordioso, mas também justo, e está intimamente interessado em cada vida humana, Ele perdoa, mas também nos responsabiliza, Ele é Salvador e Juiz; (c) o homem é uma criatura de Deus, não uma invenção sua, uma criatura não apenas emocional e com apetites, mas também com intelecto, livre arbítrio e um destino eterno; (d) existem verdades objetivas imutáveis sobre o mundo e a natureza humana, que podem ser conhecidas através da Revelação Divina e do exercício da razão; (e) a Palavra de Deus, registrada nas Escrituras, é confiável e tem força permanente; (f) o pecado é real e seus efeitos são letais; e (g) a Igreja tem a autoridade e o dever de “fazer discípulos de todas as nações”. Não abraçar com alegria esta obra de amor missionário e salvífico tem consequências. Como Paulo escreveu em 1 Coríntios 9:16 “ai de mim se eu não pregar o Evangelho”.</span></b></p><p></p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;"></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Algumas observações práticas emergem da tarefa e da lista acima.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Primeiro: a autoridade real é prejudicada quando são utilizados meios autoritários no seu exercício. O Papa é o sucessor de Pedro e aquele que garante a unidade da Igreja. Mas ele não é um autocrata. Ele não pode mudar a doutrina da Igreja e não deve inventar ou alterar arbitrariamente a disciplina da Igreja. Ele governa a Igreja colegialmente com seus irmãos bispos nas dioceses locais. E fá-lo sempre em fiel continuidade com a Palavra de Deus e com o ensinamento da Igreja. Os “novos paradigmas” e os “novos caminhos inexplorados” que se desviam uns dos outros não são de Deus. Um novo Papa deve restaurar a hermenêutica da continuidade na vida católica e reafirmar a compreensão do Vaticano II sobre o papel adequado do papado.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Segundo: assim como a Igreja não é uma autocracia, também não é uma democracia. A Igreja pertence a Jesus Cristo. É a sua Igreja. Ela é o Corpo Místico de Cristo, composto por muitos membros. Não temos autoridade para adaptar seus ensinamentos para melhor se adequar ao mundo. Além disso, o sensus fidelium católico não é uma questão de sondagens de opinião, nem mesmo da opinião de uma maioria baptizada. Ela deriva apenas daqueles que acreditam genuinamente e praticam ativamente, ou pelo menos procuram praticar sinceramente, a fé e os ensinamentos da Igreja.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Terceiro: A ambigüidade não é evangélica nem acolhedora. Pelo contrário, gera dúvidas e alimenta impulsos cismáticos. A Igreja é uma comunidade, não só de Palavra e sacramento, mas também de credo. Aquilo em que acreditamos ajuda a nos definir e a nos sustentar. Assim, as questões doutrinárias não são fardos impostos por “doutores da lei” insensíveis. Também não são um espetáculo intelectual para a vida cristã. Pelo contrário, são vitais para viver uma vida cristã autêntica, porque lidam com aplicações da verdade, e a verdade requer clareza e não nuances ambivalentes. Desde o início, o atual pontificado resistiu à força evangélica e à clareza intelectual dos seus antecessores imediatos. O desmantelamento e reutilização do Instituto João Paulo II em Roma e a marginalização de textos como Veritatis Splendor sugerem uma elevação da “compaixão” e da emoção em detrimento da razão, da justiça e da verdade. Para uma comunidade de fé, isto não é saudável e profundamente perigoso.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Quarto: A Igreja Católica, além de Palavra, sacramento e credo, é também uma comunidade de direito. O direito canónico ordena a vida da Igreja, harmoniza as suas instituições e procedimentos e garante os direitos dos crentes. Entre as marcas do atual pontificado estão a sua excessiva confiança no motu proprio como instrumento de governo e uma despreocupação e aversão generalizadas aos detalhes canónicos. Mais uma vez, tal como acontece com a ambiguidade da doutrina, o desrespeito pelo direito canónico e pelo procedimento canónico adequado mina a confiança na pureza da missão da Igreja.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Quinto: A Igreja, como tão belamente a descreveu João XXIII, é mater et magistra, a “mãe e mestra” da humanidade, não a sua seguidora obediente; o defensor do homem como sujeito da história, não como seu objeto. Ela é a noiva de Cristo; A sua natureza é pessoal, sobrenatural e íntima, não meramente institucional. Nunca poderá ser reduzido a um sistema flexível de ética ou a uma análise e remodelação sociológica para adaptá-lo aos instintos e apetites (e às confusões sexuais) de uma época. Um dos principais defeitos do pontificado actual é o seu distanciamento de uma “teologia do corpo” convincente e a falta de uma antropologia cristã atractiva... precisamente num momento em que os ataques à natureza e à identidade humanas, por parte do transgenerismo, estão a aumentar. ao transumanismo.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Sexto: As viagens pelo mundo serviram muito bem a um pastor como o Papa João Paulo II, devido aos seus dons pessoais únicos e à natureza dos tempos. Mas os tempos e as circunstâncias mudaram. A Igreja na Itália e em toda a Europa – o lar histórico da fé – está em crise. O próprio Vaticano precisa urgentemente de uma renovação da sua moral, de uma limpeza das suas instituições, procedimentos e pessoal, e de uma reforma profunda das suas finanças para se preparar para um futuro mais difícil. Não são coisas pequenas. Exigem a presença, a atenção direta e o compromisso pessoal de qualquer novo Papa.</span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Sétimo e último: O Colégio dos Cardeais existe para aconselhar o Papa e eleger o seu sucessor após a sua morte. Este serviço requer homens de carácter limpo, sólida formação teológica, experiência madura de liderança e santidade pessoal. Também requer um Papa disposto a pedir conselhos e depois ouvir. Não está claro até que ponto isto se aplica ao pontificado do Papa Francisco. O pontificado atual enfatizou a diversificação do colégio, mas não conseguiu reunir os cardeais em consistórios regulares destinados a promover a autêntica colegialidade e a confiança entre os irmãos. Como resultado, muitos dos eleitores que votarem no próximo conclave não se conhecerão realmente e poderão, portanto, ser mais vulneráveis à manipulação. No futuro, se o colégio quiser servir os seus propósitos, os seus cardeais precisarão de mais do que apenas um solidéu vermelho e um anel. O atual colégio cardinalício deve ser ativado para o conhecimento mútuo e para melhor compreender as diferentes visões que cada um tem da Igreja, as situações das suas Igrejas locais e a personalidade de cada cardeal – todos fatores importantes na reflexão sobre o novo Papa.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Os leitores perguntar-se-ão, com razão, por que este texto é anônimo. A resposta deveria ser óbvia para qualquer pessoa que conheça o teor do ambiente romano atual. A honestidade não é bem-vinda e suas consequências podem ser incômodas. E, no entanto, estas reflexões poderiam continuar por muitas mais páginas, apontando especialmente para a forte dependência do atual pontificado da Companhia de Jesus, o recente desempenho problemático do Cardeal Fernández, do DDF, e o surgimento de uma pequena oligarquia de confidentes com excessiva influência dentro do Vaticano - tudo isto apesar das reivindicações descentralizadoras da sinodalidade, entre outras coisas.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Justamente por essas questões, os alertas aqui apontados poderão ser úteis nos próximos meses. Espera-se que esta contribuição ajude a orientar as tão necessárias conversas sobre como deverá ser o Vaticano no próximo pontificado.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Demos II</b></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b></b></span></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-43490350038050542512024-02-29T14:10:00.003+00:002024-02-29T14:10:50.203+00:00A Fiducia Supplicans no Uruguai Abençoando Casal Gay com 400 convidados.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBJISR-osT93TJu4QwDs9ip9lI70YAnW3uimcZkkFYe0PkwrvRdGFdDCTw5xZi_nPXf3ZNNWmAg88uem8w_lrYDax-j5OtZ9gmkubD2hsgsGJGSHVsITdSGZqD6KVXOyCTHsgj19Bbdsz7sYq-HjA_M6fCtD6GGThTqENrC21yarCUVNZGs7VyKGwwJmOb/s810/Uruguay-same-sex-blessing-e1709208812394-810x500.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="500" data-original-width="810" height="198" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBJISR-osT93TJu4QwDs9ip9lI70YAnW3uimcZkkFYe0PkwrvRdGFdDCTw5xZi_nPXf3ZNNWmAg88uem8w_lrYDax-j5OtZ9gmkubD2hsgsGJGSHVsITdSGZqD6KVXOyCTHsgj19Bbdsz7sYq-HjA_M6fCtD6GGThTqENrC21yarCUVNZGs7VyKGwwJmOb/s320/Uruguay-same-sex-blessing-e1709208812394-810x500.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><p>O <a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-blessing-homosexuals-uruguay/">Life Site News</a> fala da cerimônia de bênção de casal gay no Uruguai que causou ultraje e indignaçã. Cerimônia realizada com base no Fiducia Supplicans de Francisco. O casamento foi entre um gay de 82 anos e seu parceiro de 47 anos. E os dois ainda vão "alugar uma barriga" para ter um filho. Que lindo, não é?</p><p>O que dizer além de obrigado Bento XVI e obrigado Francisco por esta sodomização da Igreja? </p><p>Traduzo abaixo texto do <a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-blessing-homosexuals-uruguay/">Life Site News. </a></p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;">Cerimônia de bênção para homossexuais ‘casados’ provoca indignação no Uruguai</span></b></p><p> O núncio do Vaticano no Uruguai disse que a “bênção” solicitada por um ator homossexual e seu “marido” “tinha que ser dada”, segundo Dom Milton Troccoli, que defendeu a cerimônia citando Fiducia Supplicans.</p><p>MALDONADO, Uruguai (LifeSiteNews) – Uma cerimônia de “bênção” para pessoas do mesmo sexo no Uruguai que foi aprovada pelo núncio local do Vaticano criou confusão e indignação entre os católicos.</p><p> A Revista Gente, um tablóide popular no Uruguai, cobriu o “casamento” civil de dois homens homossexuais, o ator Carlos Perciavalle, de 82 anos, e Jimmy Castilhos, de 47, e a “bênção” que receberam de um padre católico em 21 de fevereiro, dois dias depois de terem se “casado” civilmente.</p><p> Segundo Revista Gente, Pe. Francisco Gordalina, que oficiou a cerimónia da “bênção”, disse que os dois homens são “filhos de Deus que… pediram para vós uma bênção a Deus nosso Pai” e que “é com prazer que estamos presentes em nome da Igreja para abençoá-los”.</p><p> O padre afirmou que foi apenas uma “bênção” e “não um casamento”. No entanto, acrescentou que a cerimónia “é uma forma de a Igreja querer mostrar-te que Deus está contigo, e sabemos muito bem que tu também estás com Deus porque falámos na intimidade com o nosso bispo e vimos a tua fé .”</p><p> A <b>Igreja Católica condena a atividade homossexual como “intrinsecamente desordenada”, mortalmente pecaminosa e um “pecado que clama ao céu”, de acordo com a Sagrada Escritura e a Tradição constante da Igreja.</b></p><p> <b>Vários meios de comunicação locais descreveram a cerimonia como um “casamento gay” sancionado pela Igreja, provocando confusão e indignação entre os católicos no Uruguai. Isso levou Dom Milton Troccoli, da Diocese de Maldonado-Punta del Este-Minas, a emitir uma declaração oficial sobre o assunto.</b></p><p>Troccoli disse que teve uma “conversão cuidadosa” com os dois homens homossexuais, após a qual “eles solicitaram receber a bênção”, que ele descreveu como “uma possibilidade levantada por [Fiducia Supplicans] para casais em ‘situação irregular’”.</p><p> O bispo disse então que contataram o núncio apostólico no Uruguai, dom Gianfranco Gallone, para perguntar “como proceder nesta situação”, que esperavam receber significativa atenção da mídia, visto que Perciavalle é um ator famoso no Uruguai.</p><p> “<b>Fomos informados [pelo núncio] que a bênção deveria ser dada, visto que havia um documento assinado pelo Papa [Fiducia Supplicans], e que deveríamos proceder em conformidade”, afirmou Troccoli.</b></p><p> “Informámos então aos interessados que a bênção seria dada, e foram lembrados que não seria numa igreja, que era uma bênção para as pessoas e não para a união (não era um ‘casamento na igreja’), e que pelo mesmo motivo seria discreto, sem a presença de convidados; o que foi uma bênção simples”, continuou a declaração.</p><p> <b>Segundo informações da imprensa, a festa de Perciavalle e Castilhos no dia 21 de fevereiro, na qual celebraram seu “casamento” homossexual e receberam a “bênção”, contou com a presença de 400 convidados. A “bênção” também deveria acontecer em uma capela antes de ser transferida para sua fazenda, após indignação com relatos de que estava planejada para acontecer na igreja de San Benito, em Garzón.</b></p><p> Como observou o Cardeal Gerhard Müller, ex-prefeito da Congregação para a Doutrina da Fé, “abençoar” um “casal” homossexual necessariamente aprova seu relacionamento, em contradição com o ensinamento católico. “Na verdade, se alguém abençoa o casal como casal, isto é, como unido por uma relação sexual diferente do casamento, então está aprovando essa união, uma vez que é a união que os constitui como tal casal”, escreveu ele em um recente ensaio.</p><p> Outros prelados, teólogos e canonistas proeminentes fizeram declarações semelhantes, como o cardeal Robert Sarah e o padre Gerald Murray.</p><p> <b>Como esperado, a cerimónia “discreta” atraiu a atenção dos meios de comunicação nacionais e internacionais.</b></p><p> Troccoli reconheceu “que a cobertura mediática da situação pode ter ferido a sensibilidade de alguns e confundido outros”. No entanto, ele justificou a decisão de permitir a “bênção”, citando Fiducia Supplicans.</p><p> “A novidade do documento e as suas implicações pastorais mobilizam-nos a todos”, disse o bispo.</p><p> <b>De acordo com a Revista Gente, Perciavalle e Castilhos decidiram “alugar um útero substituto”, ou seja, adquirir um filho por meio de barriga de aluguel, prática que a Igreja Católica condena como gravemente pecaminosa e contrária à lei natura</b>l.</p><p> Em relação à homossexualidade, o Catecismo da Igreja Católica afirma:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;"> Baseando-se na Sagrada Escritura, que apresenta os atos homossexuais como atos de grave depravação, a tradição sempre declarou que “os actos homossexuais são intrinsecamente desordenados”. Fecham o ato sexual ao dom da vida. Não procedem de uma genuína complementaridade afetiva e sexual. Sob nenhuma circunstância eles poderão ser aprovados.</p></blockquote><p> Assim, a declaração heterodoxa do Vaticano Fiducia Supplicans, que foi aprovada e assinada pelo Papa Francisco, provocou oposição de prelados, padres e leigos católicos ortodoxos em todo o mundo, incluindo o cardeal uruguaio Daniel Sturla, que condenou Fiducia Supplicans pelo seu conteúdo e pela sua confusão deliberada .</p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-37430078266150211812024-02-26T16:30:00.001+00:002024-02-26T16:30:22.218+00:00Histórico "Escandaloso" de Francisco sobre Abuso Sexual <p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj1nIYMWudKV0vTCACGerlxkSOaywdGewGKpv5ZmCu_AQm6LSYBgkwSJN4LWwc_dPuORszuajkRH8xmU8rcLM5DUOiic11GjXxVqYni7SjeWFLZbfi0SSc3iLAxC8pHk4byyeKtTTJhkiHH93G5Ggr3iQJM8dilexmC46uYrQ2abE8R8Zy2_-Q2naKrzSjM" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="538" data-original-width="1024" height="168" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj1nIYMWudKV0vTCACGerlxkSOaywdGewGKpv5ZmCu_AQm6LSYBgkwSJN4LWwc_dPuORszuajkRH8xmU8rcLM5DUOiic11GjXxVqYni7SjeWFLZbfi0SSc3iLAxC8pHk4byyeKtTTJhkiHH93G5Ggr3iQJM8dilexmC46uYrQ2abE8R8Zy2_-Q2naKrzSjM" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p><a href="https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2024/02/24/pope-franciss-all-out-battle-against-clerical-abuse-has-been-a-failure/">Artigo publicado no The Catholic World Report</a> mostra a distância entre o que Francisco disse que ia fazer sobre os abusos sexuais da Igreja e o que realmente fez.</p><p>O artigo recebeu muita atenção na mídia católica.</p><p>Vou traduzir abaixo:</p><p><span style="font-size: large;"><b>A “batalha total” do Papa Francisco contra o abuso clerical tem sido um fracasso</b></span></p><p>Por Christopher R Altieri</p><p> Há cinco anos, o Pontífice criticou “crimes abomináveis que devem ser apagados da face da terra…” O seu histórico desde então tem sido abismal e até escandaloso.</p><p> A maior reunião da liderança hierárquica da Igreja Católica para combater o abuso sexual clerical e o encobrimento foi encerrada há cinco anos – exatamente cinco anos, se você estiver lendo isto no sábado, 24 de fevereiro de 2024 – com o Papa Francisco pedindo por “um todo- batalha” contra “crimes abomináveis que devem ser apagados da face da terra”.</p><p> O que vimos então na forma de liderança do Papa Francisco no quinquénio que se passou?</p><p> <b>Cinco anos de fracasso</b></p><p></p><ul style="text-align: left;"><li> O Papa Francisco recusou-se a destituir um molestador de crianças confesso ou mesmo removê-lo do Colégio dos Cardeais.</li><li>O Papa Francisco protegeu um prelado argentino favorito que ele mesmo elevou ao episcopado e ameaçou aqueles que buscavam justiça por parte da Igreja.</li><li>O Papa Francisco presidiu o terrível erro judiciário que permitiu que um poderoso clérigo-artista famoso não apenas escapasse da punição pelo abuso de até quarenta e uma vítimas ao longo de três décadas, mas até mesmo permanecesse no ministério como sacerdote externo residente em Roma.</li></ul><p></p><p><b>O Papa Francisco fez mais.</b></p><p></p><ul style="text-align: left;"><li>Ele promulgou reformas no papel — incluindo uma peça importante de legislação processual — e recusou-se a usá-las exceto de forma muito moderada, seletiva e nunca de forma transparente.</li><li>Antes do final do ano que precedeu e precipitou a reunião de fevereiro de 2019, o Papa Francisco demonizou homens e mulheres que exigem a reivindicação do seu direito de conhecer o verdadeiro caráter e conduta dos seus governantes na fé.</li><li>Mais recentemente, o Papa Francisco elogiou outros – aqueles que seriam conhecidos como guardiões e sentinelas da verdade — pelo silêncio em face de crimes terríveis.</li><li>Ele falou da boca para fora à justiça imparcial enquanto promoveu um favorito despreparado e totalmente comprometido para altos cargos, desencorajando aquele infeliz sujeito de ter o interesse na administração da justiça que seu próprio cargo exige.</li></ul><p></p><p><br /></p><p>Se todos os outros atos de governo do Papa Francisco estivessem impregnados de sabedoria salomônica, estes por si só - pode-se citar muitos outros - seriam suficientes para avaliar sua conduta no governo da Igreja e considerá-la extremamente deficiente.</p><p> <b>Palavra de ordem ou chavões?</b></p><p> Responsabilidade, Prestação de Contas, Transparência: Esta foi a tripla palavra de ordem do grande encontro de 2019.</p><p>A reunião em si tinha pouco em termos de uma agenda real. Antes da reunião, o Papa Francisco falou pelo canto da boca. Por outro lado, ele se esforçou para reprimir as esperanças por isso. Os principais organizadores da reunião trabalharam para gerenciar as expectativas durante meses antes mesmo de a coisa ser inaugurada.</p><p> Quase imediatamente, surgiram oportunidades para o Papa Francisco e outros clérigos seniores provarem sua sinceridade, mas não houve verdadeiros interessados. Em 2021, ficou evidente que a palavra de ordem não passava de uma coleção de chavões.</p><p> A responsabilidade sob o Papa Francisco assumiu forma definida na última metade de 2023, quando o mundo testemunhou enquanto a própria Comissão do Papa para a Proteção de Menores criticava o Vaticano por “deficiências tragicamente prejudiciais nas normas destinadas a punir os abusadores e responsabilizar aqueles cujo dever é abordar irregularidades.</p><p> Essa declaração veio no mesmo dia em que o La Croix da França informou que o desgraçado ex-arcebispo de Bordeaux, cardeal Jean-Pierre Ricard, manteria seu chapéu vermelho e direitos de voto e - no que dizia respeito ao Vaticano - poderia manter suas faculdades para ministro dentro dos limites da diocese onde reside, embora admitisse ter molestado uma menina de quatorze anos.</p><p> A <b>responsabilização sob o Papa Francisco encontra sua expressão mais eloqüente em sua observação à Associated Press sobre o assunto impossivelmente sórdido do Pe. Marko Rupnik: “Não tive nada a ver com isso.”</b></p><p>"Nada" foi tudo o que o Papa Francisco teve que fazer para garantir que seu depravado confrade escapasse da justiça.</p><p> A <b>decisão tardia de Francisco de mudar de rumo e renunciar ao estatuto de limitações atrás do qual Rupnik encontrou refúgio só piorou as coisas. A reviravolta seguiu-se à explosão de indignação mundial com a notícia de que Rupnik seria incardinado em uma diocese de sua terra natal, a Eslovênia, após sua expulsão dos jesuítas por desobediência.</b></p><p> <b>Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin</b></p><p> Na semana passada, histórias do Texas, nos Estados Unidos, ao interior australiano ou quebraram ou tiveram grande desenvolvimento. Uma crise latente que abrange a Europa e a Ásia também começou a ferver.</p><p> Há muito que se tornou inevitavelmente evidente que a podridão na cultura de liderança clerical e hierárquica da Igreja é sistémica. A cultura clerical que temos agora – sem respeito por inclinações ideológicas ou inclinações teológicas – está totalmente escravizada pela libido dominandi intrinsecamente perversa.</p><p> “A casa da Igreja ficará limpa”, escreveu este jornalista no outono de 2018 – annus horribilis no qual o descuido da hierarquia já estava em exibição berrante — as únicas questões então eram se Francisco ou César estariam segurando a vassoura e se o a limpeza viria antes ou depois da liquidação.</p><p> Estas questões ainda não receberam uma resposta definitiva, embora a experiência dos últimos cinco anos tenha fornecido indicações inequívocas.</p><p><b> A Igreja sob o Papa Francisco é simplesmente incapaz ou não quer colocar a sua própria casa em ordem</b>.</p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-91323030071677618692024-02-21T16:24:00.002+00:002024-02-23T23:19:15.032+00:00As Freiras Vítimas do Padre Rupnik Falam e Mostram o Rosto<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhBYQg4c54PKiFs-dQz-rYual2RvPLghnAYRXMJnwQkhnE2XQNu1fAPwP_PkpO_JtLvHqeMzwN5M8g20kBQs6ltZDCwOO-u72dytcwKpO0rjh4wi_wrukCvbjz5LPYEAY_CSIFRFldMVR1hNVkZ02KNfO1JkeiWbWLoTFICWfJBRkr3ywQuLq0zj3XWUzUw" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="259" data-original-width="300" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhBYQg4c54PKiFs-dQz-rYual2RvPLghnAYRXMJnwQkhnE2XQNu1fAPwP_PkpO_JtLvHqeMzwN5M8g20kBQs6ltZDCwOO-u72dytcwKpO0rjh4wi_wrukCvbjz5LPYEAY_CSIFRFldMVR1hNVkZ02KNfO1JkeiWbWLoTFICWfJBRkr3ywQuLq0zj3XWUzUw" width="278" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Esse aí na foto sorridente com papa Francisco é o padre jesuíta Marko Rupnik que é acusado de abusar sexualmente terrivelmente dezenas de freiras e que é pintor de quadros e mosaicos que Francisco adora e elogia, <a href="https://g1.globo.com/sp/vale-do-paraiba-regiao/noticia/2023/06/17/padre-responsavel-por-mosaicos-gigantes-no-santuario-nacional-de-aparecida-e-demitido-apos-denuncias-de-abuso-sexual.ghtml">tendo inclusive quadros no santuário de Nossa Senhora Aparecida no Brasil</a>.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Pela primeira vez desde que o caso eclodiu, uma freira que durante anos foi vítima de abusos sexuais e espirituais aparece em público hoje numa conferência de imprensa em Roma, conta a sua história e o que aconteceu. Ela encontrou coragem junto com outra mulher, uma ex-freira, que sofreu durante anos o abuso de poder por parte de Rupnik. Na conferência de imprensa, ambos explicam que relataram os acontecimentos aos jesuítas no início dos anos noventa, mas nada mudou. Ambos pertenciam à comunidade religiosa co-fundada por Rupnik no final dos anos 80. </div><div><br /></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Padre Rupnik foi acusado, expulso e excomunhgado, mas depois foi retirada a sua excomunhão e ele se mantém como padre. Muitos dizem que ele é protegido pelo próprio papa Francisco. O jornal <a href="https://www.ilmessaggero.it/en/trouble_looms_for_pope_francis_sexual_abuse_victims_of_father_marko_rupnik_speak_out-7944922.html">Il Messagero</a> diz que o caso Rupnik explodiu internacionalmente há alguns anos, passando por fases alternadas, até a famosa excomunhão do Dicastério da Fé. Foi-lhe imposta há dois anos, embora alguns meses depois tenha sido cancelada por outra medida vinda de cima. <b>Permanece um mistério quem poderia ter decidido isso, até porque tais atos graves e extraordinários geralmente dependem apenas do pontífice. </b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><b>O Papa Francisco tomou duas vezes medidas públicas em aparente apoio a Rupnik. Primeiro concedeu uma audiência ao teólogo que dirige o Centro Aletti em Roma e que defende firmemente Rupnik. Depois permitiu que a diocese de Roma divulgasse uma declaração que, por sua vez, pareceu reabilitá-lo. Até agora, o Papa Francisco nunca se encontrou com as vítimas de Rupnik no Vaticano, nem respondeu às suas cartas ou apelos.</b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Rupnik, porém, continua sendo sacerdote da Igreja, nunca tendo sido reduzido ao estado laico.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Não se sabe o que realmente aconteceu no Vaticano, nos bastidores, mas o fato é que o Papa Francisco decidiu no ano passado reabrir um novo caso contra Rupnik. Das poucas informações recolhidas, parece que o caso já não está a ser tratado pelo Tribunal do Dicastério da Fé - onde a violência e os abusos são geralmente avaliados - mas pelo Dicastério dos Religiosos, notoriamente bastante misericordioso e brando ao ponto de ser apelidado na cúria de “porto dos nevoeiros”. As vítimas de Rupnik dizem que sofreram violência duas vezes. Primeiro com os abusos sexuais, espirituais ou de poder do sacerdote e depois, posteriormente, com o silêncio por parte das hierarquias que repetidamente rejeitaram as suas queixas. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Pedirão também à Igreja que estabeleça um fundo dedicado às mulheres religiosas abusadas sexual e espiritualmente pelo clero. Com eles estará Anna Barrett Doyle, codiretora de longa data do BishopAccountability.org, o grupo de pesquisa com sede nos EUA que documentou a crise global de abusos no caso Boston Globe. “Este caso representa não apenas a proteção contínua da Igreja aos abusadores poderosos, mas a sua particular indiferença ao abuso sexual de mulheres adultas”, disse ela. As freiras serão defendidas pela advogada Laura Sgrò.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Os Jesuítas, depois de expulsarem Rupnik no ano passado, fizeram um apelo a todas as vítimas para que se apresentassem e denunciassem a violência. Muitos têm medo, outros têm vergonha. Em Fevereiro de 2023, anunciaram que tinham ouvido 15 mulheres cujas acusações foram consideradas credíveis. .</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Apesar de toda a controvérsia – explicam os organizadores da conferência de imprensa –</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><b>Ao lado da vítima abusada sexualmente pelo infame artista jesuíta, também fala outra mulher, uma ex-freira, que sofreu durante anos o abuso de poder por parte de Rupnik. Na conferência de imprensa, as mulheres explicarão que relataram os factos aos jesuítas no início dos anos noventa, embora nada tenha mudado. Eles vão pedir justiça, para ter a verdade. Ambos pertenciam à comunidade religiosa co-fundada por Rupnik no final dos anos 80.</b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><b><br /></b></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">O processo judicial de Rupnik continua aberto apesar das repetidas reclamações em vários níveis da hierarquia durante vinte anos, sem nunca ter produzido qualquer redução para o estado laico do sacerdote.</div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Há um vídeo da conferência a imprensa da vítima Gloria Branciani, <b> </b>ex-religiosa da Comunidade Loyola abusada pelo ex-padre jesuíta Marko Rupnik, junto com outros 20 religiosas da comunidade . Vejam abaixo:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><iframe frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://youtube.com/embed/thdlkrqmIZQ?si=YzEp3WZoUeLP6xi0" width="480"></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Gloria Branciani falou que Rupnik a abusou sexualmente no atelier que ele pintava seus quadros, e disse:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><b> “Queremos que a verdade seja conhecida e que tenha visibilidade para existirmos, não é mais aceitável ficarmos desacreditados. Queremos que a verdade inclua também essa dimensão, que também tomemos conhecimento dos documentos de como está indo encaminhar o julgamento no dicastério da vida religiosa. Quando relatei em 1993 tudo foi abafado, nunca consegui falar pessoalmente com representantes da Igreja, por exemplo não pude falar com os superiores jesuítas, apenas quando trouxe minha demissão ao arcebispo. Todos disseram que o relatório, por ser muito sensível, tinha sido mal interpretado, suavizaram o golpe para proteger a Comunidade Loyola e o Centro Aletti". </b></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Vários jornalistas católicos estão presentes na conferência, como Diana Montagna, que perguntou a freira se no momento de sua confissão com Rupnik confessava o próprio abuso sexual com Rupnik, e se ele dava absolvição. A ex-freira foi impedida de responder por sua advogada, mas disse que para Rupnik o abuso sexual era sagrado.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhdHuYav-9mXa2llLQZtPbFsfqDi2kK8zWnUpYFG_SP8_-BdnFxaAVrxNrZrrcIOaujg7FC39iGbZnBxO24i4R-5iHsre9PUNzDZ6s8guj36ln3UC7-3CVNPdkJNnLlnbDFtyt9y3ZQXydYA98_oAaToCG6WuGtmlMUOZOj5J0CQK-QADVIbSUxMusePhKw" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="470" data-original-width="577" height="325" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhdHuYav-9mXa2llLQZtPbFsfqDi2kK8zWnUpYFG_SP8_-BdnFxaAVrxNrZrrcIOaujg7FC39iGbZnBxO24i4R-5iHsre9PUNzDZ6s8guj36ln3UC7-3CVNPdkJNnLlnbDFtyt9y3ZQXydYA98_oAaToCG6WuGtmlMUOZOj5J0CQK-QADVIbSUxMusePhKw=w400-h325" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Michael Haynes diz que a pwergunta que ronda é sobre a participação do papa Francisco.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiRNKVjs2BVugTGipf_85kBUpgGT4Pv-4FFIUx_umQ7yQ5ZWuPgg_C9hh-yCJsE-3Ep9-qLH4Iwh8ke5kvGOpO9aprJ4HULBkmo3dus6pvBEhPY9A4HpvhwaKnpc6yBYrVQaYCyMr7CcRkgf3BcmsNZ7wZZMI_XhGIPfc1UsY3TenIsbqVCN_5S2VOhcddN" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="541" data-original-width="525" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiRNKVjs2BVugTGipf_85kBUpgGT4Pv-4FFIUx_umQ7yQ5ZWuPgg_C9hh-yCJsE-3Ep9-qLH4Iwh8ke5kvGOpO9aprJ4HULBkmo3dus6pvBEhPY9A4HpvhwaKnpc6yBYrVQaYCyMr7CcRkgf3BcmsNZ7wZZMI_XhGIPfc1UsY3TenIsbqVCN_5S2VOhcddN=w388-h400" width="388" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Thomspon e Montagna celebram o fato que depois de tanto tempo as vítimas estão finalmente vindo a público de cara aberta para denunciar os procedimentos do Vaticano sobre o caso.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhR5HO52MjDulrIpDpYlkP9RMt3KZjL9sT-xV8U2ZtjL8KcyFztiK8OE2w0vrnWkPgANJWeL2KmGaDfObqymu0hhAJlwEm_6xEXt7sbNaCo6Z9Q92AqvRkJn6gH7brx-o1TgRuP_pw5uYL1u0_dL3RXwz-j5x0sm1LvPZBj0AgM7QUN-N-HcK_uKhtATaPn" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="548" data-original-width="500" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhR5HO52MjDulrIpDpYlkP9RMt3KZjL9sT-xV8U2ZtjL8KcyFztiK8OE2w0vrnWkPgANJWeL2KmGaDfObqymu0hhAJlwEm_6xEXt7sbNaCo6Z9Q92AqvRkJn6gH7brx-o1TgRuP_pw5uYL1u0_dL3RXwz-j5x0sm1LvPZBj0AgM7QUN-N-HcK_uKhtATaPn=w365-h400" width="365" /></a></div></div><br /><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjw_4vykABtkzmtKsoT_0LiMtC_aQn_QGR-2NUgGzlSFPYJTKavUbKWITRbL19MIGRve5WAQAopo2GZBTguVcN6oElTC6PAIxoqKEQniDdZ1SwZDNbGCZT42GGZfq8tdYUviY6XJccknIgjGXKhqio_ZYqKK-6J4DLWsh3-SbIwTNBvCOv_km6qyGYZZkdg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="534" data-original-width="524" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjw_4vykABtkzmtKsoT_0LiMtC_aQn_QGR-2NUgGzlSFPYJTKavUbKWITRbL19MIGRve5WAQAopo2GZBTguVcN6oElTC6PAIxoqKEQniDdZ1SwZDNbGCZT42GGZfq8tdYUviY6XJccknIgjGXKhqio_ZYqKK-6J4DLWsh3-SbIwTNBvCOv_km6qyGYZZkdg=w393-h400" width="393" /></a></div><br /><br /><p></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-31165277880353621682024-02-16T20:20:00.006+00:002024-02-16T20:28:57.801+00:00Jordan Peterson: Vaticano II é Superficial e Desprezível<iframe frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://youtube.com/embed/pGQnfIy0lx8?si=OU8dKHpT7iJy9Owp" width="480"></iframe><div><br /></div><div>Impressionante resposta que o grande psicólogo Jordan Peterson deu sobre o Concílio Vaticano II que pretendeu que a Igreja fosse mais "relevante e inclusiva".</div><div><br /></div><div>Peterson detonou a ideia, para ele, essa ideia é superficial (shallow) e desprezível (<i>contemptible</i>) e obviamente não funciona, nem funcionará, pois coloca algo acima da Igreja.</div><div><br /></div><div>E Peterson ainda brilhantemente disse: Cristo nos falou: "pegue sua cruz e me siga". Isso é um convite muito difícil, mas é um convite, enquanto a Igreja Católica, com Vaticano II não convida mais, abandonou esse convite de Cristo, e se torna irrelevante.</div><div><br /></div><div>No vídeo acima, Peterson trata especialmente do câncer de sua esposa e de como isso se relaciona coma fé religiosa. É excelente. Assista todo, mas se quer ver apenas sobre o Vaticano II, o que ele diz começa no minuto 21:20.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-60131778795961443382024-02-16T19:58:00.000+00:002024-02-16T19:58:05.195+00:00Victor Davis Hanson: O Fim da Europa<iframe frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://youtube.com/embed/Wbul826yfp8?si=BDZhJw2fQDreWhKm" width="480"></iframe><div><br /></div><div>Tenho um amigo que me parece apresentar um ojeriza aos Estados Unidos, costuma me repetir que os Estados Unidos estão decadente. Eu respondo: well, yes, but what country isn't? (sim, mas qual país não está decadente atualmente?). Todos, incluindo, a China (que foi o motor do PIB global no início que começou por volta de 2002 e se estendeu até por volta de 2010), parecem muito decadente. Mesmo aqueles satélites chineses, que têm alto crescimento do PIB, são decadentes, pois são apenas satélites chineses. </div><div><br /></div><div>De forma, que talvez nunca se viu na história, hoje todos os países se mostram decadentes. Isso é bem perigoso, estimula guerras e conflitos.</div><div><br /></div><div>Em todo caso, esse amigo me parece ser fã da cultura europeia, especialmente da França. Mas ele deveria ver que a Europa está decadente desde o início do século 20, e mesmo se recusa a ser diferente, pois estimula políticas que aprofundam cada vez essa decadência. Enquanto os Estados Unidos estão apresentando decadência acelerada bem mais recente, talvez se possa iniciar este processo no mínimo em 1971, quando Nixon abandonou a conversão do dólar em ouro. </div><div><br /></div><div>Lembrei deste meu amigo no vídeo acima do grande historiador militar Victor Davis Hanson sobre o fim da Europa (<i>the demise of Europe</i>) . Hanson se pergunta por que a Europa, que em conjunto tem um PIB maior do que o da China e é muito mais avançada tecnologicamente se autodestrói.</div><div><br /></div><div>Eu costumo dizer que a Europa é "café com leite" na política internacional. Não apita mais nada, os países realmente poderosos (Estados Unidos, China e Rússia) e também os não poderosos fazem de conta que ouvem a Europa. Os países, poderosos ou não, frequentam as reuniões e comissões europeias, comem nos <i>coffee breaks</i> desssas reuniões, assinam protocolos europeus, mas logo desprezam esses protocolos quando eles minimamente incomodam o que eles querem fazer. </div><div><br /></div><div>Hanson ressalta que a economia europeia está estagnante e a política de energia é suicida, pois tem foco em geração de energia cara e ineficiente.</div><div><br /></div><div>Militarmente, sem o apoio dos Estados Unidos, a Rússia poderia invadir militarmente os países europeus.</div><div><br /></div><div>As principais políticas estimuladas pelos países europeus (aceitação da imigração em massa, desarmamento, distribuição da riqueza) falharam e continuarão falhando.</div><div><br /></div><div>Com Obama, os Estados Unidos procurou com exaltação aplicar essas políticas europeias, que foram interrompidas com Trump, mas voltaram com força com Biden (que na verdade é Obama, pois Biden está senil). </div><div><br /></div><div>A Europa não quer defender a civilização ocidental e tudo que esta civilização representa, e os Estados Unidos, com um presidente senil, não consegue sustentar essa civilização sozinho.</div><div><br /></div><div>A Europa é uma grande Califórnia, com população imigrante acima de 25% da população e com enormes déficits fiscais e sociais e crises existenciais morais.</div><div><br /></div><div>Hanson exalta a necessidade do soerguimento europeu. Disse que os conservadores europeus que ele conhece são muito articulados, muito bem formados (até melhor que os conservadores americanos) e corajosos. Certamente, ele está falando das pessoas conservadoras ou de partidos políticos muito recentes, pois os partidos políticos tradicionais europeus que se dizem conservadores se parecem muito mais com a esquerda dos Estados Unidos do que com o Partido Republicano, de direita nos Estados Unidos.</div><div><br /></div><div>Partidos de esquerda europeus, então, demonizam seu próprio povo, odeiam a cultura europeia.</div><div><br /></div><div>Europa comete suicídio coletivo. Os Estados Unidos, com o Partido Democrata, procuram fazer o mesmo. </div><div><br /></div><div>Estamos em um mundo caótico e frágil, onde os velhos inimigos do Ocidente observam o suicídio do Ocidente. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-39182344362634937412024-02-12T19:31:00.000+00:002024-02-12T19:31:05.229+00:00Livro sobre Papa - "Francisco - A Conquista do Poder"<p> <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj2ImiHThv4kKt3b0DXj07Pkpzi8LCF3vnEr_Yvh8ai3fooN5iTsrgI1mDsuj549yz9RjDYMzVw8LkPIKMc8WsiX5NkB6i27kVIQ9AUlrCKVNYB-XRqVPqLcMV6dAMVBoPJhSqqtXZLAu30FBQ_ES-NOXwvurasQM-AdI1HeahVo1CstSEVw2Bj_PvNadPA" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><br /></a></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj2ImiHThv4kKt3b0DXj07Pkpzi8LCF3vnEr_Yvh8ai3fooN5iTsrgI1mDsuj549yz9RjDYMzVw8LkPIKMc8WsiX5NkB6i27kVIQ9AUlrCKVNYB-XRqVPqLcMV6dAMVBoPJhSqqtXZLAu30FBQ_ES-NOXwvurasQM-AdI1HeahVo1CstSEVw2Bj_PvNadPA" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="375" data-original-width="380" height="316" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj2ImiHThv4kKt3b0DXj07Pkpzi8LCF3vnEr_Yvh8ai3fooN5iTsrgI1mDsuj549yz9RjDYMzVw8LkPIKMc8WsiX5NkB6i27kVIQ9AUlrCKVNYB-XRqVPqLcMV6dAMVBoPJhSqqtXZLAu30FBQ_ES-NOXwvurasQM-AdI1HeahVo1CstSEVw2Bj_PvNadPA=w320-h316" width="320" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj21M7yIu_x-akq87dlcs5oxazLkidbjvISl6UH5hMXdqnZnLMAge8MN2wl9Iz_unU8rzZSbW2wxQrp_RaEInU3m4DE-CF3MlBcLTny7-IfGrQSaZ5y8BYErzyUmoWmX3U_RsQT38jtqQmq44grjbCQgh67oweDCp-l9CUpeA8G6G5s5SisPxkDGvhLPcMl" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="482" data-original-width="322" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj21M7yIu_x-akq87dlcs5oxazLkidbjvISl6UH5hMXdqnZnLMAge8MN2wl9Iz_unU8rzZSbW2wxQrp_RaEInU3m4DE-CF3MlBcLTny7-IfGrQSaZ5y8BYErzyUmoWmX3U_RsQT38jtqQmq44grjbCQgh67oweDCp-l9CUpeA8G6G5s5SisPxkDGvhLPcMl=w213-h320" width="213" /></a></div><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjgy0lghd5Obnubd2QJYnV-rOq99GnwA21ZBC34YJrKtBG8FNzQd8l3h2WJVPQPun34yh0XcqyHagnuIBivWGLyG7lHFT11ly_v1zO17nVISBt1CKIYEbugkNjDkZ6qPNFPF1gGE2b6x-0HkUao4y0hBoiDcSL_6mW99H3owlPDaWEMg7WJTq6fHuXphJz1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="348" data-original-width="341" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjgy0lghd5Obnubd2QJYnV-rOq99GnwA21ZBC34YJrKtBG8FNzQd8l3h2WJVPQPun34yh0XcqyHagnuIBivWGLyG7lHFT11ly_v1zO17nVISBt1CKIYEbugkNjDkZ6qPNFPF1gGE2b6x-0HkUao4y0hBoiDcSL_6mW99H3owlPDaWEMg7WJTq6fHuXphJz1=w313-h320" width="313" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Foi traduzido para o inglês o livro de Jean Pierre Morreau, François: La Conquer du Pouvoir (Francisco a Conquista do Poder). Em inglês,o títulos ficou <a href="https://tanbooks.com/products/books/the-synodal-pope-the-true-story-of-the-theology-and-politics-of-pope-francis/#">"The Synodal Pope" (O Papa do Sínodo)</a>. O livro é de 2022. </p><p>Coloquei aqui a estrutura do livro em inglês. Pode-se ver que o foco do autor francês, que conhece muito bem a América Latina, é a história de vida de Francisco quando padre na Argentina, especialmente a influência da teologia da libertação e do peronismo sobre Bergoglio desde o começo da formação.</p><p>Tenho a impressão que este é um livro importante para entender ou confirmar o que já se sabe sobre Bergoglio, um papa esquerdista com apego às questões mundanas e desprezo às questões da Igreja.</p><p>A <a href="https://tanbooks.com/products/books/the-synodal-pope-the-true-story-of-the-theology-and-politics-of-pope-francis/#">apresentação do livro em inglês diz que</a>:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">"Em O Papa Sinodal: A Verdadeira História da Teologia e Política do Papa Francisco, Jean-Pierre Moreau traça a história e o desenvolvimento teológico do Papa Francisco desde a sua educação na Argentina e a formação pelos Jesuítas libertadores. Moreau, um atento observador da teologia da libertação, muitas de cujas principais figuras conheceu pessoalmente quando era correspondente especial da Figaro-Magazine na década de 1980, fez um estudo atento do itinerário pessoal e intelectual de Jorge Mario Bergoglio, descrito por seus apoiadores mais próximos como professando a “teologia do povo”. Este enfoque particular no “povo” tem fundamentos teológicos e políticos que muitos comentadores modernos não compreendem plenamente. Está no cerne da compreensão do Sínodo sobre a Sinodalidade. </p></blockquote><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">É por isso que o Papa Francisco dá tanta ênfase aos “sinais dos tempos” e à história. Estas são as novas ferramentas ao serviço de uma doutrina que é inerentemente evolutiva. Este livro lança luz sobre o “verdadeiro Bergoglio” e as verdadeiras influências por trás dele. É tudo menos um catálogo de trivialidades sobre a “governança” do Papa Francisco: antes, mostra a sua coerência profundamente enraizada e as suas verdadeiras filiações (que remontam a mais tempo do que geralmente se imagina) e, mais importante, revela a natureza verdadeiramente revolucionária do seu ideia de “sinodalidade”. Se você deseja compreender esse termo desde sua gênese, este livro é uma leitura obrigatória."</p></blockquote><p>Se você consegue entender francês, o autor do livro deu uma entrevista no ano passado. vejam abaixo.</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><iframe frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://youtube.com/embed/fjs7xcVmUhg?si=cLes6P7_kmfVht_v" width="480"></iframe><br /><br /><p></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-55143730435898944872024-02-11T16:55:00.011+00:002024-02-11T17:00:20.155+00:00O Levante dos Fazendeiros na Europa <p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigUSl3xJh12uZTOBgKjjWIjlDTYdCLGMxNeBhIEYvwsyIQFFXsZZ93PuQfXUqdj6CjmkSqGC20PnNbhzX8bF8KOojUIdOzHF96UmHyee4Hq_M2XIp1QHYths7VullrD5Sc82dR8-OhGnCu3_WeNrKtHHfW8XlQpYhlyZezf72yXF8HxWgQaeepLAZnrUF_/s1080/2024_02_11_09.15.34_edit.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="644" data-original-width="1080" height="239" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigUSl3xJh12uZTOBgKjjWIjlDTYdCLGMxNeBhIEYvwsyIQFFXsZZ93PuQfXUqdj6CjmkSqGC20PnNbhzX8bF8KOojUIdOzHF96UmHyee4Hq_M2XIp1QHYths7VullrD5Sc82dR8-OhGnCu3_WeNrKtHHfW8XlQpYhlyZezf72yXF8HxWgQaeepLAZnrUF_/w400-h239/2024_02_11_09.15.34_edit.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Nas últimas semanas, há muitos relatos, principalmente nas mídias sociais, de ações de protestos de fazendeiros europeus contra as medidas climáticas feitas pela União Europeia. Os jornais e veículos de comunicação tradicionais evitaram ao máximo o assunto.</p><p>No Brasil, com exceção do climatologista Dr Ricardo Felício, não encontrei ninguém falando com seriedade e profundidade sobre os protestos. </p><p>No atual momento, ao que parece, a União Europeia se rendeu às demandas dos fazendeiros europeus, porque as manifestações mostraram a enorme força deles em vários países europeus. E esses fazendeiros tiveram grande apoio popular. </p><p>Hoje, encontrei um texto resumo sobre o assunto no site <a href="https://brownstone.org/articles/eu-farmers-rise-against-the-climate-cult/">Brownstone Institute</a>, escrito por David Thunder.</p><p>Traduzo o texto abaixo:</p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;">Agricultores da UE se levantam contra o culto ao clima</span></b></p><p>Por David Thunder, 10 de fevereiro de 2024.</p><p>Muitas das principais vias que ligam a Europa foram obstruídas ou paralisadas nos últimos dias por uma onda de protestos de agricultores contra o que alegam serem metas ambientais excessivamente onerosas e níveis insustentáveis de burocracia associados às regulamentações agrícolas nacionais e da UE.</p><p>Os tiros de alerta deste confronto entre políticos e agricultores já tinham sido disparados em 1 de Outubro de 2019, quando mais de 2.000 tractores holandeses causaram confusão no trânsito nos Países Baixos em resposta a um anúncio de que as explorações pecuárias teriam de ser compradas e encerradas para reduzir emissões de nitrogênio. No início do ano passado, os agricultores polacos bloquearam a fronteira com a Ucrânia exigindo a reimposição de tarifas sobre os cereais ucranianos.</p><p>Mas foi só no início deste ano que se iniciou um protesto em toda a UE. Os protestos alemães e franceses e os bloqueios de tratores foram notícia internacional,. Estes bloqueios foram rapidamente replicados em Espanha, Portugal, Bélgica, Grécia, Países Baixos e Irlanda. As principais autoestradas e portos foram bloqueados e estrume foi derramado sobre edifícios governamentais, enquanto os agricultores de toda a Europa expressavam a sua frustração com o aumento dos custos agrícolas, a queda dos preços dos seus produtos e as regulamentações ambientais paralisantes que tornavam os seus produtos não competitivos no mercado global.</p><p>Parece que os agricultores deixaram as elites europeias abaladas, o que não surpreende, dado que as eleições na UE estão muito próximas. <b>Embora a Comissão Europeia tenha anunciado terça-feira que ainda estava empenhada em alcançar uma redução de 90% das emissões de gases com efeito de estufa na Europa até 2040, omitiu visivelmente qualquer menção à forma como o sector agrícola contribuiria para essa meta ambiciosa. Ainda mais revelador é o fato de a Comissão ter recuado ou evitado compromissos fundamentais em matéria de clima, pelo menos temporariamente</b>.</p><p>De acordo com o site Politico, a presidente da Comissão Europeia, Ursula von der Leyen, anunciou na terça-feira que “estava retirando um esforço da UE para controlar o uso de pesticidas”. A rejeição desta e de outras propostas da Comissão relacionadas com a agricultura foi bastante embaraçosa para a Comissão, mas politicamente inevitável, dado que os protestos se espalhavam rapidamente e os agricultores não davam sinais de regressarem para casa até que as suas exigências fossem satisfeitas. Conforme relatado do site Político:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Uma nota sobre a possibilidade de a agricultura reduzir o metano e os óxidos nitrosos em 30 por cento, que constava dos primeiros rascunhos da proposta da Comissão para 2040, já tinha desaparecido quando foi publicada, na terça-feira. Da mesma forma foram eliminadas as missivas sobre a mudança comportamental – possivelmente incluindo o consumo de menos carne ou lacticínios – e a redução dos subsídios aos combustíveis fósseis, muitos dos quais vão para os agricultores para ajudar nos seus custos de óleo diesel. Foi inserida uma linguagem mais suave sobre a necessidade da agricultura para a segurança alimentar da Europa e as contribuições positivas que esta pode trazer.</p></blockquote></blockquote><p>A Comissão Europeia está jogando um jogo perigoso. Por um lado, estão tentando apaziguar os agricultores fazendo-lhes concessões convenientes a curto prazo. Por outro lado, mantêm-se firmes no seu compromisso de reduzir as emissões de gases com efeito de estufa na Europa em 90% até 2040, ao mesmo tempo que se esquivam do fato de que uma redução de 90% nas emissões em 16 anos teria implicações drásticas para a agricultura.</p><p>É claramente politicamente conveniente, especialmente num ano eleitoral, apagar este fogo de descontentamento agrícola o mais rapidamente possível e comprar alguma paz antes das eleições europeias de junho. Mas não há como evitar o fato de que os objectivos ambientais a longo prazo da Comissão, tal como atualmente concebidos, exigem quase certamente sacrifícios que os agricultores simplesmente não estão dispostos a aceitar.</p><p>Independentemente dos méritos da política climática da UE, duas coisas são claras: <b>primeiro, os líderes da UE e os ativistas ambientais parecem ter subestimado enormemente a reação negativa que as suas políticas iriam desencadear na comunidade agrícola; e em segundo lugar, o aparente sucesso deste dramático protesto à escala da UE estabelece um precedente espectacular que não passará despercebido entre os agricultores e as empresas de transporte, cujos custos operacionais são fortemente impatados por regulamentações ambientais, como os impostos sobre o carbono.</b></p><p>As concessões embaraçosas da Comissão são a prova de que táticas disruptivas e de elevada visibilidade podem ser eficazes. Como tal, podemos esperar mais disto depois das eleições europeias de junho, se a Comissão redobrar novamente os seus objectivos de política climática.</p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-52601308248529094872024-02-09T13:29:00.007+00:002024-02-09T18:45:16.540+00:00Entrevista Tucker Carlson com Putin (Transcrição)<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjeJSQBvpxFa7WExFLBPcB39foILTNHJGk49PZgUloDtGgQbw7Qt268VALrOWGgtwjhBnT-yyYKObnQaaE2DG3NG2xJ8JnhpZXYR5xfAENImvOIH91MYUC_3MOWFqjyASkhbqg_bJShfx5RYcMNIaS_Q8vtx8Xg-h_x5wNN7UxED3Bl7f1KW1etEC0wc-YB" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="391" data-original-width="597" height="263" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjeJSQBvpxFa7WExFLBPcB39foILTNHJGk49PZgUloDtGgQbw7Qt268VALrOWGgtwjhBnT-yyYKObnQaaE2DG3NG2xJ8JnhpZXYR5xfAENImvOIH91MYUC_3MOWFqjyASkhbqg_bJShfx5RYcMNIaS_Q8vtx8Xg-h_x5wNN7UxED3Bl7f1KW1etEC0wc-YB=w400-h263" width="400" /></a></div><br /></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">No momento em que escrevo este post a entrevista do jornalista americano Tucker Carlson com o ditador <a href="https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1755734526678925682">Vladimir Putin já atingiu a marca de ser assistida por 100 milhões de pessoas no mundo</a> e a entrevista não tem nem 24 horas no ar.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Não é incomum jornalista americano entrevistar ditadores, por exemplo, a CBS entrevistou Fidel Castro quando ele tomou o poder em Cuba, entrevistaram Pinochet do Chile, entrevistaram Bin Laden, entrevistaram o líder do Talibã, e o próprio Putin já tinha sido entrevistado pela Associatred Press em 2013.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Essas entrevistas são muito importantes e históricas. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Fiquei incomodado com a reação da imprensa contra essa entrevista, mesmo no Brasil. Tucker Carlson é um excepcional jornalista, muito competente e de muito sucesso. Foi até pouco tempo o jornalista mais assistido na TV a Cabo dos Estados Unidos, um tremendo sucesso. Muitos jornalistas que odeiam Putin colocaram na cabeça que a entrevista serveria de palco para Putin. Para mim, isso seria impossível, mesmo que Carlson apoie o fim da guerra em favor da Rússia. Carlson é brilhante, sabe o que deve fazer e o que não deve fazer. Não concordo com tudo que ele diz, mas isso não importan, não preciso concordar com tudo com alguém para admirar seu trabalho e sua inteligência. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Como eu previa, a entrevista foi excelente e muito corajosa. Carlson fez as perguuntas que devem ser feitas, e inclusive confrontou o ditador sobre a explosão do gasoduto de Nord Stream e mesmo contra a prisão de um jornalista americano Evan Gershkovich na Rússia. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Além disso, Carlson colocou a questão da relação dos líderes ocidentais (Boris Johnson e Biden) com relação à guerra da Ucrânia e com o Zelensky. Putin respondeu que os líderes ocidenatis controlam a Ucrânia, que não querem o fim da guerra, mas se mostrou querendo proteger a possibilidde de um acordo, procurou não atacar muito os líderes ocidentais. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Vi com a entrevista mais claramente quem é Putin, em suma uma pessoa maligna muito inteligente e perigosa, mas que parece querer o fim da guerra. Putin, treinado pelas organizações secretas russas, destila muito conhecimento, mas também podemos perceber que procurar sair da guerra de forma que ele possa se mostrar de alguma forma vitorioso. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Muita gente nos Estads Unidos comparou a velocidade de raciocínio e as longas falas sobre história da Rússia de Putin com os discursos fracos e gafes de Biden. Mas isto é péssima comparaçao. Biden esta senil há anos. Na verdade, achei Putin meio incomodado com a entrevista, com sorrisos e reações não naturais, de quem ensaiou para parecer esperto. Em algumas momentos, Putin foi meio gangster com Carlson, daquele tipo: 'eu sei quem você é'.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Se quiserem ver a entrevista, que foi disponibilizada no Twitter, <a href="https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1755734526678925682">cliquem aqui</a>. Encontrei uma transcriçao da entrevista em inglês, não tenho tempo para traduzir, mas se você não lê em inglês, coloque a transcrição da entrevista no Google Translate para o português.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Transcrição:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"> <span face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; letter-spacing: initial; text-align: left;">The following is an interview with the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, shot February sixth, 2024, at about 07:00 PM in the building behind us, which is, of course, the Kremlin. The interview, as you will see if you watch it, is primarily about the war in progress, the war in Ukraine, how it started, what's happening, and most presently, how it might end. One note before you watch. At the beginning of the interview, we asked the most obvious question, which is, why did you do this? Did you feel a threat, an imminent physical threat? And that's your justification. And the answer we got shocked us. Putin went on for a very long time, probably half an hour, about the history of Russia going back to the eighth century. And honestly, we thought this was a filibustering technique and found it annoying and interrupted him several times. And he responded he was annoyed by the interruption. But we concluded in the end, for what it's worth, that it was not a filibustering technique. There was no time limit on the interview. We ended it after more than two hours. Instead, what you're about to see seemed to us sincere, whether you agree with it or not?</span></div><p></p><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 76 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:01:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Vladimir Putin believes that Russia has a historic claim to parts of Western Ukraine. So our opinion would be to view it in that light as a sincere expression of what he thinks. And with that, here it is. Mr. President, thank you. </p><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br /></p><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">On February 22nd, 2022, you addressed your country in a nationwide address when the conflict in Ukraine started. You said that you were acting because you had come to the conclusion that the United United States through NATO might initiate a, quote, surprise attack on our country. To American ears, that sounds paranoid. Tell us why you believe the United States might strike Russia out of the blue. How did you I can include that.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 123 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:02:03]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It's not that America, the United States, was going to launch a surprise strike on Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 130 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:02:10]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I didn't say that. Are we having a talk show or a serious conversation?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 136 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:02:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Here's the quote. Thank you. It's a formidable serious talk.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 143 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:02:23]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Because your basic education is in history as far as I understand. Yes. So if you don't mind, I will take only 30 seconds or one minute to give you a short reference to history for giving you a little historical background. Please.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 164 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:02:44]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Let's look where our relationship with Ukraine started from. Where did Ukraine come from?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 171 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:02:51]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The Russian state started gathering itself as a centralized statehood, and it is considered to the year of the establishment of the Russian state in 862, when the townspeople of Novgorod invited a Varungian Prince, Rurik, from Scandinavia to reign.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 197 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:03:17]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">In 1862, Russia celebrated the 1,000 anniversary of its statehood. In Novgorod, there is a memorial dedicated to the 1,000 anniversary of the In 882, Rurik's successor, Prince Oleg, who was actually playing the role of regent at Rurik's Young son, because Rurik had died by that time, came to Kyiv. He ousted two brothers who apparently had once been members of Rurik's squad.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 240 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:04:00]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 242 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:04:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Russia began to develop with two centers of power, Kyiv and Novgorod.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 247 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:04:07]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The next very significant date in the history of Russia was 1988.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 254 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:04:14]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Vladimir This was the baptism of Russia, when Prince Vladimir, the great grandson of Rouric, baptized Russia and adopted orthodoxy or Eastern Christianity. From this time, the centralized Russian state began to strengthen. Why? Because of the single territory, integrated economic ties, one in the same language, and after the baptism of Russia, the same faith and rule of the Prince. The centralized Russian state began to take shape. Back in the Middle Ages, Prince Jaroslav the Wise introduced the order of succession to a throne. But after he passed away, it became complicated for various reasons. The throne was passed not directly from father to eldest son, but from the prince who had passed away to his brother, then to his sons in different lines. All this led to the fragmentation and the end of ruse as a single state. There was nothing special about it. The same was happening then in Europe. But the fragmented Russian state became an easy prey to the empire created earlier by King Ishan. His successors, namely Batu Khan, came to Rus, plundered and ruined nearly all the cities. The Southern part, including Kyiv, by the way, and some other cities, simply lost independence, while the Northern cities preserved some of their sovereignty.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 363 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:06:03]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">They had to pay tribute to the hord, but they managed to preserve some part of their sovereignty.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 371 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:06:11]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Then a unified Russian state began to take shape with its center in Moscow. The Southern part of Russian lands, including Kyiv, began to gradually gravitate towards another magnet, the center that was emerging in Europe. This was the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It was even called the Lithuanian Russian Duchy because Russians were a significant part of this population. They spoke the old Russian language and were Orthodox. But then there was a unification, the Union of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 416 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:06:56]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">A few years later, another union was signed, but this time already in the religious sphere.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 425 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:07:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Some of the Orthodox priests became subordinate to the Pope. Thus, these lands became part of the Polish-Lithuanian state. During decades, the Poles were engaged in polonization of this part of the population. They introduced their language there, tried to entrench the idea that this population was not exactly Russians, that because they lived on the fringe, they were Ukrainians. Originally, the word Ukrainian meant that a person was living on the outskirts of the state, along the fringes, or was engaged in a border patrol service. It didn't mean any particular ethnic group. The Poles were trying to, in every possible way, to colonize this part of the Russian lands and actually treated it rather harshly, not to say cruelly. All that led to the fact that this part of the Russian lands began to struggle for their rights. They wrote letters to Warsaw demanding that their rights be observed and people be commissioned here, including to Kyiv.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 498 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:08:18]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I beg your pardon, can you tell us what period I'm losing track of where in history we are, the Polish oppression of Ukraine?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 506 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:08:26]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It was in the 13th century.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 513 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:08:33]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Now, I will tell you what happened later and give the date so that there is no confusion.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 525 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:08:45]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">And in 1654, even a bit earlier, the people who were in control of the authority over that part of the Russian lands addressed Warsaw, I repeat, demanding that they send them to rulers of Russian origin and Orthodox faith. When Warsaw did not answer them, and in fact, rejected their demands, they turned to Moscow so that Moscow took them away. So that you don't think that I'm inventing things, I'll to give you these documents.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 571 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:09:31]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, it doesn't sound like you're inventing, and I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 577 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:09:37]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But still, these are documents from the archives, copies. Here are the letters from Bogdan Hymelnitsky, the man who then controlled the power in this part of the Russian lands that is now called Ukraine. He wrote to Warsaw, demanding that their rights be upheld. After being refused, he began to write letters to Moscow, asking to take them under the strong hand of the Moscow Tsar. There are copies of these documents. I will leave them for your good memory. There is a translation into Russian. You can translate it into English later. Russia would not agree to admit them straight away, assuming that the war with Poland would start. Nevertheless, in 1654, the Pan-Russian Assembly of Top Clergy and landowners headed by the Tsar, which was the representative body of the power of the old Russian state, decided to include a part of the old Russian lands into Moscow Kingdom. As expected, the war with Poland began. It lasted 13 years, and then in 1654, a truce was concluded. And 32 years later, I think, a peace treaty with Poland, which they called eternal peace, was signed. In these lands, the whole left bank of Dnieper, including Kyiv, went to Russia, and the whole right bank of Dnieper remained in Poland.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 676 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:11:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Under the rule of Catherine the Great, Russia reclaimed all of its historical lands, including in the south and west. This all lasted until the revolution. Before World War I, Austrian general staff relied on the ideas of Ukrainianization and started actively promoting the ideas of Ukraine and the Ukrainianization. Their motive was obvious. Just before World War I, they wanted to weaken the potential enemy and secure themselves favorable conditions in the border area. The idea which had emerged in Poland that people residing in that territory were allegedly not really Russians, but rather belong to a special ethnic group, Ukrainians, started being propagated by the Austrian general staff. As far back as the 19th century, theorists calling for Ukrainian independence appeared. All those, however, claimed that Ukraine should have a very good relationship with Russia. They insisted on that. After the 1917 revolution, the Polsheviks sought to restore the statehood and the civil war began, including the hostilities with Poland. In 1921, peace with Poland was claimed, and under that treaty, the right bank of Dnieper River once again was given back to Poland. In 1939, after Poland cooperated with Hitler, he did collaborate with Hitler. Hitler offered Poland peace and a treaty of friendship.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 794 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:13:14]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">An alliance demanding in return that Poland give back to Germany the so-called Danzig corridor, which connected the bulk of Germany with East Russia and Königsberg.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 812 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:13:32]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">After World War I, this territory was transferred to Poland, and instead of Danzig, a city of Gdansk emerged.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 823 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:13:43]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Hitler asked them to give it amicably, but they refused. Of course. Still, they collaborated with Hitler and engaged together in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 837 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:13:57]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">May I ask you, you're making the case That Ukraine, certainly parts of Ukraine, Eastern Ukraine, is in effect, Russia has been for hundreds of years. Why wouldn't you just take it when you became president 24 years ago? You have nuclear weapons, they don't. If it's actually your land, Why did you wait so long?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 857 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:14:17]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'll tell you, I'm coming to that. This briefing is coming to an end. It might be boring, but it explains many things. It's not boring. You just don't know how it's relevant.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 868 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:14:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Good. Good.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 871 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:14:31]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'm so gratified that you appreciate that.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 873 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:14:33]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Thank you.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 875 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:14:35]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Before World War II, Poland collaborated with Hitler, and although it did not yield to Hitler's demands, it still participated in the petitioning of Czechoslovakia together with Hitler, as the Poles had not given the dancing corridor to Germany and went too far, pushing Hitler to start World War II by attacking them. Why was it Poland against whom war started on first September, 1939? Poland turned out to be uncompromising, and Hitler had nothing to do but start implementing his plans with Poland. By the way, the USSR, I have read some archive documents, behaved very honestly. It asked Poland's permission to transit its troops through the Polish territory to help Czechoslovakia. But the then-Polish foreign minister said that if the Soviet plans flew over Poland, they would be downed over the territory of Poland. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that the war began, and Poland fell prey to the policies. It That pursuit against Czechoslovakia, as under the well-known Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Part of the territory, including Western Ukraine, was to be given to Russia. Thus, Russia, which was then who then named the USSR, regained its historical lands. After the victory in the Great Patriotic War, as we call World War II, all those territories were ultimately enshrined as belonging to Russia, to the USSR.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 979 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:16:19]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">As for Poland, it received, apparently in compensation, the lands which had originally been German, the Eastern parts of Germany. These are now Western lands of Poland. Of course, Poland regained access to the Baltic Sea and Danzig, which was once again given its Polish name.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1008 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:16:48]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This was how this situation developed.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1014 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:16:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">In 1922, when the USSR was being established, the Polshewik He started building the USSR and established the Soviet Ukraine, which had never existed before.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1026 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:17:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Stalin insisted that those republics be included in the USSR as autonomous entities.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1040 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:17:20]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">For some inexplicable reason, Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, insisted that they be entitled to withdraw from the USSR.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1050 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:17:30]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Are. Again, for some unknown reasons, he transferred to that newly established Soviet Republic of Ukraine some of the lands together with people living there, even though those lands had never been called Ukraine, and yet they were made part of that Soviet Republic of Ukraine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1070 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:17:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Those lands included the Black Sea region, which was received under Catherine and the Great, and which had no historical connection with Ukraine whatsoever. However, even if we go as far back as 1654, when these lands returned to Russian Empire, that territory was the size of three to four regions of modern Ukraine with no Black Sea region. That was completely out of the question.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1097 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:18:17]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">In 1654?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1100 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:18:20]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Exactly.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1101 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:18:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You obviously have encyclopedic knowledge of this region, but why didn't you make this case for the first 22 years as President that Ukraine wasn't a real country?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1115 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:18:35]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1125 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:18:45]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">At some point, when Russia received them as an outcome of the Ruso-Turkish Wars, they were called New Russia or Novorossia. But that does not matter. What matters that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way. For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR, and for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainianization. It was not merely because the Soviet leadership was composed to a great extent of those originating from Ukraine. Rather, it was explained by the general policy of indigenization Ukraine, pursued by the Soviet Union. Same things were done in other Soviet Republic. This involved promoting national languages and national cultures, which is not a bet in principle. That is how the Soviet Ukraine was created. After the World War II, Ukraine received, in addition to the lands that had belonged to Poland before the war, part of the lands that had previously belonged to Hungary and Romania. Romania and Hungary had some of their lands taken away and given to the Soviet Ukraine, and they still remain part of Ukraine. In this sense, we have every reason to affirm that Ukraine is an artificial state that was shaped at Stalin's will.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1209 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:20:09]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you believe Hungary has a right to take its land back from Ukraine and that other nations have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1221 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:20:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'm not sure whether they should go back to the 1654 borders.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1228 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:20:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But given Stalin's At the time, so-called Stalin's regime, which, as many claim, saw numerous violations of human rights and violations of the rights of other states, in that sense, of course, it's One may say that they could claim back those lands of theirs while having no right to do that. It is at least understandable.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1254 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:20:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Have you told Viktor Orbán that he can have part of Ukraine?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1261 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:21:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Never.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1262 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:21:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I have never told him. Not a single time. We have not even had any conversation on that, but I actually know for sure that Hungary Americans who lived there wanted to get back to their historical land. Moreover, I would like to share a very interesting story with you. I digress. It's a personal one. Somewhere in the early '80s, I went on a road trip in a car from then Leningrad, across the Soviet Union, through Kyiv, made a stop in Kyiv, and then went to Western Ukraine. I went to the town of Biragavoye. In all the names of towns and villages, there were in Russian and in the language I did not understand, in Hungarian, in Russian, and in Hungarian, not in Ukrainian, in Russian, and in Hungarian. I was driving through some village, and there were men sitting next to the houses, and they were wearing black three-piece suits and black cylinder hats. I asked, Are they some entertainers? I was told, No, they were not entertainers. They're Hungarian. I said, What are they doing here? What do you mean? This is their land. They live here. This was during the Soviet time in the 1980s.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1351 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:22:31]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">They preserved the Hungarian language, Hungarian names, and all their national costumes. They are Hungarian, and they feel themselves to be Hungarian. Of course, when now there is an infringement-That is There's a lot of that, though.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1366 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:22:46]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I think many nations are upset about Transylvania as well, as you obviously know. But many nations feel frustrated by the redrawn borders of the wars of the 20th century and wars going back a thousand years, the ones that you mentioned. But the fact is that You didn't make this case in public until two years ago, February. In the case that you made, which I read today, you explain at great length that you felt a physical threat from the West in NATO, including potentially a nuclear threat, and that's what got you to move. Is that a fair characterization of what you said?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1404 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:23:24]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I understand that my long speeches probably fall outside of the genre of the interview. That is why I asked you at the beginning, are we going to have a serious talk or a show? You said a serious talk. So bear with me, please. We're coming to the point where the Soviet Ukraine was established. Then in 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed, and everything that Russia had generously bestowed on Ukraine was dragged away by the latter. I'm coming to a very important point of today's agenda.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1444 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:24:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Thank you.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1446 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:24:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">After all, the collapse of the Soviet Union was effectively initiated by the Russian leadership.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1451 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:24:11]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't know what then was the leadership of Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1455 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:24:15]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I do not understand what the Russian leadership was guided by at the time, but I suspect there were several reasons to think everything would be fine. First, I think that then, Russian leadership believed that the fundamentals of the relationship between Russia and Ukraine were, in fact, a common language. More than 90% of the population there spoke Russian. Family ties. Every third person there had some family or friendship ties. Common culture, common history. Finally, common faith, coexistence with a single state for centuries. And deeply interconnected economies. All of these were so fundamental. All these elements together make our good relationships inevitable.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1515 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:25:15]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The second of The second point is a very important one. I want you, as an American citizen, and your viewers to hear about this as well. The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist, and therefore, there were no longer any ideological dividing lines.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1538 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:25:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and believed that this would be understood by the so-called Civilized West as an invitation for cooperation and associateship. That is what Russia was expecting, both from the United States and the so-called Collective West as a whole. There were smart people, including in Germany, Egan Barr, a major politician of the Social Democratic Party, who insisted in his personal conversations with the Soviet leadership on the brink of the collapse of the Soviet Union, that a new security system should be established in Europe. Help should be given to unify Germany, but a new system should be also established to include the United States, It's Canada, Russia, and other Central European countries. But NATO needs not to expand.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1597 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:26:37]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That's what he said.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1599 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:26:39]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">If NATO expands, everything would be just the same as during the Cold War, only closer to Russia's borders.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1607 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:26:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That's all. He was a wise old man, but no one listened to him.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1612 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:26:52]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">In fact, he got angry once. If he said, You don't listen to me, I'm never setting my foot in Moscow once again.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1623 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:27:03]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But, still, not even.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1624 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:27:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Everything happened just as he had said.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1627 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:27:07]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, of course, it did come true. You've mentioned this many times. I think it's a fair point. Many in America thought that relations between Russia and the United States would be fine with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the end of the Cold War, that the opposite happened. But you've never explained why you think that happened, except to say that the West fears a strong Russia, but we have a strong China China the West does not seem very afraid of. What about Russia do you think convinced policymakers they had to take it down?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1659 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:27:39]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The West is afraid of strong China more than it fears a strong Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1667 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:27:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Because Russia has 150 million people and China has 1.5 billion population, and its economy is growing by a leaps and bounds, or 5% a year. It used to be even more. But that's enough for China. As Bismarck once put it, potentials are the most important. China's potential is enormous. It is the biggest economy in the world today in terms of purchasing power parity and the size of the economy. It has already overtaken the United States quite a long time ago, and it is growing at a rapid clip. Let's not talk about who is afraid of whom. Let's not reason in such terms. Let's get into the fact that after 1991, when Russia expected that it would be welcomed into the brotherly family of civilized nations, nothing like this happened. You tricked us. I don't mean you, personally, when I say you. Of course, I'm talking about the United States. The promise was that NATO would not expand eastward. But it happened five times. There were five waves of expansion. We tolerated all that. We were trying to persuade them. We were saying, Please don't. We are as bourgeois now as you are. We are a market economy, and there is no Communist Party power.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1741 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:29:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Let's negotiate. Moreover, I have also said this publicly before.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1746 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:29:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">There was a moment when a certain rift started growing between us.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1754 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:29:14]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Before that, Yeltsin came to the United States. Remember, he spoke in Congress and said the good words, God bless America. Everything he said were signals. Let us in. Remember the developments in Yugoslavia before the Yeltsin was lavish launched with praise? As soon as the developments in Yugoslavia started, he raised his voice in support of Serbs, and we couldn't but raise our voices for Serbs in their defense. I understand that there were complex processes on the way there. I do. But Russia could not help raising its voice in support of Serbs because Serbs are also a special and close to us nation with Orthodox culture and so on. It's a nation that has suffered so much for generations. Well, regardless, what is important is that Yeltsin expressed his support. What did the United States do? In violation of international law and the UN charter, it started bombing Belgrade. It was the United States that led the genie out of the bottle. Moreover, when Russia protested and expressed its resentment, what was said, the UN charter and international law have become obsolete. Now everyone invokes international law, but at that time, they started saying that everything was outdated.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1829 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:30:29]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Everything had need to be changed. Indeed, some things need to be changed as the balance of power has changed. It's true, but not in this manner. Yeltsin was immediately dragged through the mud, accused of alcoholism, of understanding nothing, of knowing nothing. He understood everything, I assure you.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1848 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:30:48]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, I became President in 2000.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1852 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:30:52]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I thought, Okay, the Yugoslav issue is over, but we should try to restore relations. Let's reopen the door Russia had tried to go through. And moreover, I said it publicly, I can't reiterate. At a meeting here in the Kremlin with the outgoing President, Bill Clinton, right here in the next room, I said to him, I asked him, Bill, do you think if Russia asked to join NATO, do you think it would happen? Suddenly, he said, You know, it's interesting. I think so. But in the evening when we met for dinner, he said, I've talked to my team. No, no, it's not possible now. You can ask him. I think he will watch our interview. He'll confirm it. I wouldn't have said anything like that if it hadn't happened. Okay.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1910 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:31:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Were you sincere?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1911 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:31:51]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It's impossible now. Were you sincere?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1912 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:31:52]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Would you have joined NATO?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1915 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:31:55]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Look, I asked the question, Is it possible or not? The answer I got was no. If I wasn't sincere in my desire to find out what the leadership position was- But if he had said yes, would you have joined NATO? If he had said yes, the process of reproachment would have commenced, and eventually it might have happened if we had seen some sincere wish on the other side of our partners. But it didn't happen. Well, no means no. Okay, fine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1948 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:32:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Why do you think that is? Just to get to motive, I know you're clearly bitter about it. I understand. But why do you think the West rebuffed you then? Why the hostility? Why did the end of the Cold War not fix the relationship? What motivates this from your point of view?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1966 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:32:46]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You said I was bitter about the answer.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 1970 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:32:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No, it's not bitterness. It's just a statement of fact. We're not bride and groom, bitterness, resentment. It's not about those kinds of matters in such circumstances. We just realized we weren't welcome there. That's all. Okay, fine. But let's build relations in another manner. Let's look for common ground elsewhere. Why we received such a negative response, you should ask your leaders. I can only guess why. Too big a country with its own opinion and so on. In the United States, I have seen how issues are being resolved in NATO. I I will give you another example now concerning Ukraine. The US leadership exerts pressure, and all NATO members obediently vote, even if they do not like something. Now, I'll tell you what happened in this regard with Ukraine in 2008, although it's being discussed. I'm not going to open a secret to you, say anything new. Nevertheless, after that, we tried to build relations in different ways. For example, the events in the Middle East, in Iraq. We were building relations with the United States in a very soft, prudent, cautious manner. I repeatedly raised the issue that the United States should not support separatism or terrorism in the North Caucasus, but they continued to do it anyway.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2064 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:34:24]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Political support, information support, financial support, even military support came from the United States and its satellites for terrorist groups in the caucuses. I once raised this issue with my colleague, also the President of the United States. He says, It's impossible. Do you have proof? I said, Yes. I was prepared for this conversation, and I gave him that proof. He looked at it, and you know what he said? I apologize, but that's what happened. I'll quote. He says, Well, I'm going to kick their ass. We waited and waited for some response. There was no reply. I said to the FSB director, Write to the CIA. What is the result of the conversation with President? He wrote once, twice, and then we got a reply. We have the answer in the archive. The CIA replied, We have been working with the opposition in Russia. We believe that this is the right thing to do, and we will keep on doing it. Just ridiculous. Well, okay. We realized that it was out of the question.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2136 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:35:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Forces in opposition to you. You're saying the CIA is trying to overthrow your government.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2140 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:35:40]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Of course, they meant in that particular case, the separatists, the terrorists who fought with us in the caucuses.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2151 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:35:51]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That's who they called the opposition. This is the second point. The third moment is a very Very important one. It's the moment when the US missile defense system was created. The beginning.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2166 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:36:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We persuaded for a long time not to do it in United States. Moreover, After I was invited by Bush Jr.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2180 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:36:20]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">'s father, Bush Senior, to visit his place on the ocean, I had a very serious conversation with President Bush and his team. I proposed that the United States, Russia, and Europe, jointly create a missile defense system that we believe, if created unilaterally, threaten our security, despite the fact that the United States officially said that it was being created against missile threats from Iran. That was the justification for the deployment of the missile defense system. I suggested working together, Russia, the United States, and Europe. They said it was very interesting. They asked me, Are you serious? I said, Absolutely.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2226 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:37:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">May I ask what year was this?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2229 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:37:09]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't remember.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2232 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:37:12]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It is easy to find out on the internet when I was in the USA at the invitation of a Bush senior. It is even easier to learn from someone I'm going to tell you about. I was told it was very interesting. I said, Just imagine if we could tackle such a global strategic security challenge together. The world will change. We'll probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones, but we could drastically change the situation in the world. He says, Yes, and asks, Are you serious? I said, Of course. We need to think about it, I'm told. I said, Go ahead, please. Then Secretary of Defense, Gates, former Director of CIA and Secretary of State, Rice, came in here in this cabinet, right here at this table. They sat on this table, me, the foreign minister, the Russian defense minister on that side. They said to me, Yes, we have thought about it. We agree. I said, Thank God, great. But with some exceptions.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2301 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:38:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">So twice you've described US presidents making decisions and then being undercut by their agency heads. So It sounds like you're describing a system that's not run by the people who are elected in your telling.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2316 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:38:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That's right. In the end, they just told us to get lost.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2323 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:38:43]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'm not going to to show you the details because I think it's incorrect. After all, it was confidential conversation. But our proposal was declined. That's a fact. It was right then when I said, Look, but then we will be forced to take countermeasures. We will create such strike systems that will certainly overcome missile defense systems. The answer was, We are not doing this against you, and you do what you want, assuming that it is not against us, not against the United States. I said, Okay, very well. That's the way it went. We created hypersonic systems with intercontinental range, and we continue to develop them. We are now ahead of everyone, the United States and the other countries, in terms of the development of hypersonic strike systems, and we are improving them every day. But it wasn't us. We proposed to go the other way, and we were pushed back. Now, about NATO's expansion to the east. Well, we were promised no NATO to the east, not an inch to the east, as we were told. And then what? They said, Well, it's not enshrined on paper, so we'll expand. So there five waves of expansion, the Baltic States, the whole of Eastern Europe, and so on.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2405 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:40:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">And now I come to the main thing. They have come to the Ukraine, ultimately. In 2008, at the summit in Bucharest, they declared that the doors for Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO were open. Now, about how decisions are made there. Germany, France seem to be against it, as well as some other European countries. But then, as it turned out, later Remember, President Bush, and he's such a tough guy, a tough politician, as I was told later, he exerted pressure on us and we had to agree. It's ridiculous. It's like kindergarten. Where are the guarantees? What kindergarten is this? What people are these? Who are they? You see, they were pressed, they agreed. Then they say, Ukraine won't be in the NATO. I say, I don't know. I know you agreed in 2008. Why won't you agree in the future? Well, they pressed us then. I say, Why won't they press you tomorrow? And you'll agree again. Well, it's nonsensical. Who's there to talk to? I just don't understand. We're ready to talk. But with who? Where are the guarantees? None. So they started to develop the territory of Ukraine. Whatever is there, I have told you, the background, how this territory developed, what relations they were with Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2495 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:41:35]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Every second or third person there has always had some ties with Russia. During the elections in already independent, sovereign Ukraine, which gained its independence as a result of the Declaration of Independence. And by the way, it says that Ukraine is a neutral state, and in 2008, suddenly the doors or gates to NATO were opened to it. Oh, come on. This is not how we agreed. Now, all the presidents that have come to power in Ukraine, they relied on electorate with a good attitude to Russia in one way or the other. This is the southeast of Ukraine. This is a large number of people.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2538 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:18]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It was very difficult to dissuade this electorate, which had a positive attitude towards Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2546 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:26]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Viktor Yanukowitch came to power, and how? The first time he won after President Kuchma, they organized a third round, which is not provided for in the Constitution of Ukraine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2557 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:37]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This is a coup d'État.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2560 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:40]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Just imagine someone in the United States wouldn't like the outcome.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2565 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:45]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">In 2014?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2567 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2568 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:42:48]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Before that. No, this was before that. After President Kutchma, Viktor Yanukowitch, won the elections. However, his opponents did not recognize that victory. The US supported with the opposition, and the third round was scheduled. What is this? This is a coup.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2585 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:43:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The US supported it, and the winner of the third round came to power.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2590 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:43:10]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Imagine if in the US, something was not to someone's liking, and the third round of election, which the US Constitution does not provide for, was organized. Nonetheless, it was done in Ukraine. Okay, Viktor Yushchenko, who was considered a pro-western politician, came to power.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2609 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:43:29]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Fine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2610 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:43:30]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We have built relations with him as well. He came to Moscow with visits. We visited Kyiv. I visited, too. We met in an informal setting. If he's pro-western, It will be it. It's fine. Let people do their job. The situation should have developed inside the independent Ukraine itself. As a result of Khrushchev's leadership, things got worse, and Viktor Yanukowitch came to power after all. Maybe he wasn't the best President and politician. I don't know. I don't want to give assessments. However, the issue of the association with the EU came up. We have always been leaning into this. Suit yourself. But when we read through the Treaty of Association, it turned out to be a problem for us since we had a free trade zone and opened customs borders with Ukraine, which under this association had to open its borders for Europe, which that would have led to flooding of our market.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2673 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:44:33]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We said, No, this is not going to work.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2678 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:44:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We shall close our borders with Ukraine then. The customs borders, that is. Janukowitch started to to evaluate how much Ukraine was going to gain, how much to lose, and said to his European partners, I need more time to think before signing. The moment he said that, the opposition began to take destructive steps which were supported by the West. It all came down to Maidan and a coup in Ukraine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2704 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:45:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">So he did more trade with Russia than with the EU. Ukraine did.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2709 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:45:09]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Of course.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2712 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:45:12]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It's not even the matter of a trade volume, although for the most part it is. It is the matter of cooperation size, which the entire Ukrainian economy was based on. The cooperation size between the enterprises were very close since the times of the Soviet Union. One They are surprised they're used to produce components to be assembled both in Russia and Ukraine and vice versa. They used to be very close ties. A coup de tal was committed, although I shall not delve into details now, as I find doing it inappropriate, the US told us. Calm Janukowitch down, and we will calm the opposition. Let the situation unfold in the scenario of a political settlement. We said, All right, agreed. Let's do it this way. As the Americans requested, Janukowitch did use neither the armed forces nor the police, yet the armed opposition committed a coup in Kyiv. What is that supposed to mean? Who do you think you are? I wanted to ask the then US leadership.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2780 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:46:20]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">With the backing of whom?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2785 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:46:25]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">With the backing of CIA, of course. The organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand. We should thank God they didn't let you in, although it is a serious organization. I understand. My former vis a vis in the sense that I served in the first main directorate, Soviet Union's intelligence service. They have always been our opponents. A job is a job.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2812 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:46:52]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Technically, they did everything right.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2816 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:46:56]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">They achieved their goal of changing the government. However, However, from political standpoint, it was a colossal mistake. Surely it was political leadership's miscalculation. They should have seen what it would evolve into. In 2008, the doors of NATO were opened for Ukraine. In 2014, there was a coup. They started persecuting those who did not accept the coup, and it was indeed a coup. They created a threat to Crimea, which we had to take under our protection. They launched a war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started. There's a video of aircraft attacking Donetsk from above. They launched a large-scale military operation, then another one. When they failed, they started to prepare the next one. All this against the background of military development of this territory and opening of NATO's How could we not express concern over what was happening? From our side, this would have been a culpable negligence. That's what it would have been. It's just that the US political leadership pushed us to the line we could not cross because doing so could have ruined Russia itself. Besides, we could not leave and their brothers in faith, in fact, a part of Russian people in the face of this war machine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2916 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:48:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That was eight years before the current conflict started. What was the trigger for you? What was the moment where you decided you had to do this.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2932 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:48:52]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict. By the way, back then, the representatives of three European countries, Germany, Poland, and France, arrived. They were the guaranteeors of the signed agreement between the government of Yanukowitch and the opposition. They signed it as guaranteeors. Despite that, the opposition committed a coup, and all these countries pretended that they didn't remember that they were guaranteeors of the peaceful settlement.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2963 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:49:23]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">They just threw it in the stove right away, and nobody recalls that.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 2968 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:49:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't know if the US know anything about the agreement between the opposition and the authorities and its three guaranteeors who, instead of bringing this whole situation back in the political field, supported the coup. Although it was meaningless, believe me, because President Yanukowitch agreed to all conditions. He was ready to hold an early election which he had no chance of winning, frankly speaking. Everyone knew that. Then why the coup? Why the victims? Why threatening Crimea? Why launching an operation in Donbas? This I do not understand. That is exactly what the miscalculation is. Cia did its job to complete the coup. I think one of the Deputy Secretaries of State said that it cost a large sum of money, almost 5 billion. But the political mistake was colossal. Why would they have to do that? All All this could have been done legally, without victims, without military action, without losing Crimea. We would have never considered to even lift a finger if it hadn't been for the bloody developments on Maidan. Because we agreed with the fact that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, our border should be along the borders of former Union's republics.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3054 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:50:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We agreed to that, but we never agreed to NATO's expansion, and moreover, we never We agreed that Ukraine would be in NATO.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3064 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:51:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We did not agree to NATO bases there without any discussion with us.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3070 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:51:10]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">For decades, we kept asking, Don't do this, don't do that. And what triggered the latest events? Firstly, the current Ukrainian leadership declared that it would not implement the Minsky agreements, which had been signed, as you know, after the events of 2014 in Minsky, where the plan of peaceful settlement in Donbas was set forth. But no, the current Ukrainian leadership, Foreign Minister, all other officials, and then President himself, said that they don't like anything about the Minsky agreements. In other words, they were not going to implement it. A year or a year and a half ago, former leaders of Germany and France said openly to the whole world that they indeed signed the Minnsk agreements, but they never intended to implement them. They simply let us by the nose.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3128 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:52:08]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Was there anyone for you to talk to? Did you call a US President's Secretary of State and say, If you keep militarizing Ukraine with NATO forces, this is going to get… We're going to act.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3147 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:52:27]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We talked about this all the time. We addressed the United States and European country's leadership to stop these developments immediately, to implement the MINSK agreements. Frankly speaking, I didn't know how we were going to do this, but I was ready to implement them. These agreements were complicated for Ukraine. They included lots of elements of those Donbas territory's independence. That's true. However, I was absolutely confident, and I'm saying this to you now. I I honestly believe that if we managed to convince the residents of Donbas, and we had to work hard to convince them to return to the Ukrainian statehood, then gradually the wounds would start to heal. When this part of territory reintegrated itself into common social environment. When the pensions and social benefits were paid again, all the pieces would gradually fall into place.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3207 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:53:27]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No, nobody wanted that.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3210 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:53:30]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Everybody wanted to resolve the issue by military force only, but we could not let that happen. The situation got to the point when the Ukrainian side announced, No, we will not do anything. They also started preparing for military action. It was they who started the war in 2014. Our goal is to stop this war, and we did not start this war in 2022. This is an attempt to stop it.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3241 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:54:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you think you've stopped it now? Have you achieved your aims?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3250 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:54:10]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No, we haven't achieved our aims yet because one of them is the nazification. This means the prohibition of all kinds of neo-nazi movements. This is one of the problems that we discussed during the negotiation process, which ended in Istanbul early this year.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3271 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:54:31]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">And it was not our initiative because we were told by the Europeans, in particular, that it was necessary to create conditions for the final signing of the documents.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3286 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:54:46]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">My counterparts in France and Germany said, How can you imagine them signing a treaty with a gun to their heads? The troops should be pulled back from Kyiv. I We said, All right. We withdraw the troops from Kyiv. As soon as we pulled back our troops from Kyiv, our Ukrainian negotiators immediately, through all our agreements, reached in Istanbul into the bin and got prepared for a long-standing armed confrontation with the help of the United States and its satellites in Europe. That is how the situation has developed, and that is how it looks now.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3332 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:55:32]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Pardon my English. What is denazification? What would that mean?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3342 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:55:42]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That is what I want to talk about right now. It is a very important issue, the nazification. After gaining independence, Ukraine began to search, as some Western analysts say, its an identity. It came up with nothing better than to build this identity upon some false heroes who collaborated with Hitler. I have already said that in the early 19th century, when the theories of independence and sovereignty of Ukraine appeared, they assumed that an independent Ukraine should have very good relations with Russia. But due to the historical development, those territories were part of the Polish-Lituanian Commonwealth, Poland, where Ukrainians were persecuted and treated quite brutally as well as were subject to cruel behavior. There were also attempts to destroy their identity.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3417 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:56:57]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">When the Second World War, All this remained in the memory of the people.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3423 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:57:03]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">When World War II broke out, part of this extremely socialist elite collaborated with Hitler, believing that he would bring them freedom. The German troops, even the SS troops, made Hitler's collaborators do the dirtiest work of exterminating the Polish and Jewish population. Hence, this brutal massacre of the Polish and Jewish population Russian, as well as the Russian population, too. This was led by the persons who are well known: Bandera, Shukhevich. It Because those people who were made national heroes, that is the problem. We are constantly told that nationalism and neo-nazism exist in other countries as well. Yes, they are seedlings, but we approve them, and other countries fight against them. But Ukraine is not the case. These people have been made into national heroes in Ukraine. Monuments to those people have been erected. They are displayed on flags. Their names are shouted by crowds that walk with torches as it was in Nazi Germany. These were people who exterminated Poles, Jews, and Russians.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3508 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:58:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">These It is necessary to stop this practice and prevent the dissemination of this concept.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3521 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:58:41]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I say that Ukrainians are part of the one Russian people. They say, No, we are a separate people. Okay, fine. If they consider themselves a separate people, they have the right to do so, but not on the basis of Nazism, the Nazi ideology.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3538 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:58:58]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Would you be satisfied with the territory that you have now?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3542 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:59:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I will finish answering the question.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3552 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[00:59:12]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You just asked a question about neo-nazism and denazification. Look, the President of Ukraine visited Canada. This story is well known, but being silenced in the Western countries. The Canadian Parliament introduced a man who, as the Speaker of the Parliament said, fought against the Russians during the World War II. Well, who fought against the Russians during the World War II? Hitler and his accomplices. It turned out that this man served in the SS troops. He personally killed Russians, Poles, and Jews. The SS troops consisted of Ukrainian nationalists who did this dirty work. The President of Ukraine stood up with the entire parliament of Canada and applauded How can this be imagined? The President of Ukraine himself, by the way, is a Jew by nationality.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3608 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:00:08]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Really, my question is, what do you do about it? I mean, Hitler has been dead for 80 years. Nazi Germany no longer exists. I think what you're saying is you want to extinguish or at least control Ukrainian nationalism. But how? How do you do that?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3627 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:00:27]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">. Listen to me. Your question is very subtle.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3634 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:00:34]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Listen to me. Your question is very subtle, and I can sell you what I think. Do not take offense.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3643 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:00:43]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Of course.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3649 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:00:49]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This question appears to be subtle. It is quite pesky. You say Hitler has been dead for so many years, 80 years. But his example lives on. People who exterminated Jews, Russians, and Poles are alive. The President, the current President of today's Ukraine, applauds him in the Canadian Parliament, gives a standing ovation. Can we say that we have completely uprooted this ideology if what we see is happening today? That is what the nazyfication is in our understanding. We have to get rid of those people who maintain this concept and support this practice and try to preserve it. That is what the nazification is. That is what we mean.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3698 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:01:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Right. My question is a little more specific. It was, of course, not a defense of Nazis, NIO or otherwise. It was a practical question. You don't control the entire country. You don't control Kyiv. You don't seem like you want to. How do you eliminate a culture or an ideology or feelings or a view of history in a country that you don't control? What do you do about that?.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3720 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:02:00]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You know, as strange as it may seem to you, during the negotiations in Istanbul, we did agree that We have it all in writing, neo-nazism would not be cultivated in Ukraine, including that it would be prohibited at the legislative level.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3746 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:02:26]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Mr. Carson, we agreed on that. This, it turns out, can be done during the negotiation process. There's nothing humiliating for Ukraine as a modern, civilized state. Is any state allowed to promote nazism? It is not, is it? That is it.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3768 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:02:48]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Will there be talks, and why haven't there been talks, about resolving the conflict in Ukraine? Peace talks.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3784 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:03:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">They have been. They reached a very high stage of coordination of positions in a complex process, but still they were almost finalized. But after we withdraw our troops from Kyiv, as I have already said, the other side threw away all these agreements and obeyed the instructions of Western countries, European countries, and the United States to Russia to the bitter end. Moreover, the President of Ukraine has legislated a ban on negotiating with Russia. He signed a decree forbid everyone to negotiate with Russia. But how are we going to negotiate if he forbade himself and everyone to do this? We know that he is putting forward some ideas about this settlement, but in order to agree on something, we need to have a dialog. Is Is that not right?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3841 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:04:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, but you wouldn't be speaking to the Ukrainian President. You'd be speaking to the American President. When was the last time you spoke to Joe Biden?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3849 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:04:09]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I cannot remember when I talked to him. I do not remember. We can look it up. You don't remember? No. Why? Do I have to remember everything? I have my own things to do. We have domestic political affairs.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3864 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:04:24]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, he's funding the war that you're fighting, so I would think that would be memorable.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3870 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:04:30]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, yes, he funds, but I talked to him before the special military operation, of course.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3876 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:04:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I said to him then, by the way, I will not go into details. I never do. But I said to him then, I believe that you are making a huge mistake of historic proportions by supporting everything that is happening there in Ukraine by pushing Russia away. I told him. Told him repeatedly, by the way. I think that would be correct if I stop here.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3899 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:04:59]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">What did he Ask him, please.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3904 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:05:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It is easier for you. You are a citizen of the United States. Go and ask him. It is not appropriate for me to comment on our conversation.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3912 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:05:12]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But you haven't spoken to him since before February of 2022.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3918 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:05:18]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No, we haven't spoken.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3925 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:05:25]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Certain contacts are being maintained, though. Speaking of which, do you remember what I told you about my proposal to work together on a missile defense system?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3938 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:05:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Yes.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3941 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:05:41]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You can ask all of them. All of them are safe and sound, thank God. The former President, Kandaleeza, is safe and Sound, and I think Mr. Gates and the current Director of the Intelligence Agency, Mr. Burns, the then ambassador to Russia, in my opinion, are very successful ambassador. They were all witnesses to these conversations. Ask them. Same here. If you are interested in what Mr. President Biden responded to me, ask him. At any rate, I I'll talk to him about it.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3976 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:06:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'm definitely interested, but from the outside, it seems like this could devolve or evolve into something that brings the entire world into conflict and could initiate a nuclear launch. Why Why don't you just call Biden and say, Let's work this out?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 3998 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:06:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">What's there to work out? It's very simple.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4001 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:06:41]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I repeat, we have attacks through various agencies. I will tell you what we are saying on this matter and what we are conveying to the US leadership.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4014 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:06:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">If you really want to stop fighting, you need to stop supplying weapons. It will be over within a few weeks. That's it. Then we can agree on some terms. Before you do that, stop. What's easier? Why would I call him? What should I talk to him about or beg him for what?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4035 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:07:15]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">And what messages do you get back?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4039 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:07:19]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You're going to deliver such and such weapons to Ukraine? Oh, I'm afraid. I'm afraid. Please don't. What is there to talk about?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4048 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:07:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you think NATO Are you guys worried about this becoming a global war or a nuclear conflict?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4058 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:07:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">At least that's what they're talking about. They're trying to intimidate their own population with an imaginary Russian threat. This is an obvious fact. Thinking people, not Philistines, but thinking people, analysts, those who are engaged in real politics, just smart people, understand perfectly well that this is a fake. They're trying to fuel the Russian threat.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4084 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:08:04]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The threat I think you're referring to is a Russian invasion of Poland, Latvia, expansionist behavior. Can you imagine a scenario where you sent Russian troops to Poland?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4101 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:08:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Only in one case, if Poland attacks Russia. Why? Because we have no interest in Poland, Latvia, or anywhere else. Why would we do that? We simply don't have any interest. It's just threat mongering.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4116 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:08:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, the argument, I know you know this, is that, well, he invaded Ukraine. He has territorial aims across the continent. You're saying, unequivocally, you don't.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4131 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:08:51]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It is absolutely out of the question.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4138 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:08:58]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You just don't have to be any analyst. It goes against common sense to get involved in some a global war. And a global war will bring all humanity to the brink of destruction. It's obvious. There are certainly means of deterrence. They have been scaring everyone with us all along. Tomorrow, Russia will use tactical nuclear weapons. Tomorrow, Russia will use that. No, the day after tomorrow. So what? In order to extort additional money from US taxpayers and European taxpayers in the confrontation with Russia in the Ukrainian theater of war. The goal The goal is to weaken Russia as much as possible.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4190 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:09:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">One of our senior United States senators from the state of New York, Chuck Schumer, said yesterday, I believe, that we have to continue to fund the Ukrainian effort or US soldiers, citizens, could wind up fighting there. How do you assess that?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4216 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:10:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This is a provocation, and a cheap provocation at that. I do not understand why American soldiers should fight in Ukraine. There are mercenaries from the United States there. The bigger number of mercenaries comes from Poland, with mercenaries from the United States in second place, and mercenaries from Georgia in third place. Well, if somebody has the desire to send regular troops, that would certainly bring humanity to the brink of a very serious global conflict. This is obvious. Do the United States need this? What for? Thousands of miles away from your national territory, Don't you have anything better to do? You have issues on the border, issues with migration, issues with the national debt, more than $33 trillion. You have nothing better to do, so you should fight in Ukraine? Wouldn't it be better to negotiate with Russia, make an agreement, already understanding the situation that is developing today, realizing that Russia will fight for its interests to the end, and realizing this, actually return to common sense, start respecting our country and its interests, and look for certain solutions? It seems to me that this is much smarter and more rational.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4304 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:11:44]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Who blew up Nord Stream?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4308 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:11:48]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You, for sure.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4310 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:11:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I was busy that day. Nate, do you have... I did not blow up Nord Stream. Thank you, though.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4319 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:11:59]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Was it You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4328 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:12:08]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you have evidence that NATO or the CIA did it?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4338 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:12:18]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I won't get into details, but people always say in such cases, look for someone who is interested. But in this case, we should not only look for someone who is interested, But also for someone who has capabilities, because there may be many people interested, but not all of them are capable of sinking to the bottom of the Baltic Sea and carrying out this explosion. These two components should be connected. Who is interested and who is capable of doing it?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4367 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:12:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But I'm confused. I mean, that's the biggest act of industrial terrorism ever, and it's the largest emission of CO₂ in history. Okay, so if you had evidence, and presumably given your security services, your intel services, you would that NATO, the US, CIA, the West did this, why wouldn't you present it and win a propaganda victory?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4393 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:13:13]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world's media and many European media. The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest European media are American financial institutions. Don't Did you know that? So it is possible to get involved in this work, but it is cost-prohibitive, so to speak. We can simply shine the spotlight on our sources of information, and we will not achieve results. It is clear to the whole world what happened, and even American analysts talk about it directly.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4431 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:13:51]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It's true. Yes. But here's a question you may be able to answer. You worked in Germany, famously. The Germans clearly know that their NATO partner did this, and it damaged their economy greatly. It may never recover. Why are they being silent about it? That's very confusing to me. Why wouldn't the Germans say something about it?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4455 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:14:15]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This also confuses me. But today's German leadership is guided by the interests of the collective West rather than its national interests. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain the logic of their action or inaction. After all, it is not only about Nord Stream 1, which was blown up, and the Nord Stream 2 was damaged. But one pipe is safe and sound, and gas can be supplied to Europe through it. But Germany does not open it. We are ready, please. There's another route through Poland, called Yamal Europe, which also allows for a large flow. Poland has closed it, but Poland packs from the German hand, it receives money from the pan-European funds, and Germany is the main donor to these pan-European funds. Germany feeds Poland to a certain extent, and they close their route to Germany. Why? I don't understand. Ukraine, to which the Germans supply weapons and give money. Germany is the second sponsor of the United States in terms of financial aid to Ukraine. There are two gas gas routes through Ukraine. They simply closed one route. The Ukrainians opened the second route and, Please get gas from Russia. They do not open it. Why don't the Germans say, Look, guys, we give you money and weapons.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4546 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:15:46]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Open up the valve. Please let the gas from Russia pass through for us. We're buying liquefied gas at exorbit prices in Europe, which brings the level of our competitiveness and economy in general, down to zero. Do you want us to give you money? Let us have the decent existence. Make money for our economy because this is where the money we give you comes from. They refuse to do so. Why? Ask them. That is what is like in their heads. Those are highly incompetent people.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4582 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:16:22]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, maybe the world is breaking into two hemispheres, one with cheap energy, the other without. I want to ask you that if If we're now a multipolar world, obviously we are, can you describe the blocks of alliances? Who is in each side, do you think?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4600 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:16:40]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Listen, you have said that the world is breaking into two hemispheres.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4607 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:16:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">A human brain is divided into two hemispheres. One is responsible for one type of activities, the other one is more about creativity and so on. But it is still one in the same head. The world should be a single hole. Security should be shared rather than a meant for the golden billion. That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable, and predictable. Until then, while the head is split in two parts, it is an illness, a serious adverse condition. It is a period of severe disease that the world is going through now. But But I think that thanks to honest journalism, this work is akin to work of the doctors. This could somehow be remedied.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4657 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:17:37]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, let's just give one example, the US dollar, which has united the world in a lot of ways. Maybe not to your advantage, but certainly not ours. Is that going away as the reserve currency, the universally accepted currency? How have sanctions, do you think, changed the dollar's place in the world?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4677 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:17:57]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This is You know, to use the dollar as a tool of foreign policy struggle is one of the biggest strategic mistakes made by the US political leadership.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4696 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:18:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The dollar is the cornerstone of the United States power. I think everyone understands very well that no matter how many dollars are printed, they are quickly dispersed all over the world. Inflation in the United States is minimal. It's about 3 or 3.4%, which is, I think, totally acceptable for the US, but they won't stop printing. What does the debt of $33 trillion tell us about? It is about the emission.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4735 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:18:55]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4741 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:19:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Nevertheless, it is the main weapon used by the United States to preserve its power across the world. As soon as the political leadership decided to use the US dollar as a tool of political struggle, a blow was dealt to this American power. I would not like to use any strong language, but it is a stupid thing to do and a grave mistake. Look at what is going on in the world. Even the United States allies are now downsizing their dollar reserves. Seeing this, everyone starts looking for ways to protect themselves. But the fact that the United States applies restrictive measures to certain countries, such as placing restrictions on transactions, freezing assets, et cetera, causes grave concern and sends a signal to the whole world. We What did we have here? Until 2022, about 80% of Russian foreign trade transactions were made in US dollars and euros. Us dollars accounted for approximately 50% of our transactions with third countries. Well, currently, it is down to 13%. It wasn't us who banned the use of the US dollar. We had no such intention. It was decision of the United States to restrict our transactions in US dollars.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4838 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:20:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I think it is complete foolishness from the point of view of the interests of the United States itself and its taxpayers, as it damages the US economy, undermines the power of the United States across the world. By the way, our transactions in UN accounted for about 3%. Today, 34% of our transactions are made in rubles, and about as much, a little over 34% in UN. Why did the United States do this? My only guess is self-conceit. They probably thought it would lead to full collapse, but nothing collapsed. Moreover, other countries, including oil producers, are thinking of and already accepting payments for oil in UN. Do you even realize what is going on or Why not? Does anyone in the United States realize this? What are you doing? You're cutting yourself off. All experts say this. Ask any intelligent and thinking person in the United States what the dollar means for the US. You're killing it with your own hands.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4914 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:21:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I think that's a fair assessment. The question is what comes next, and maybe you trade one colonial power for another much less sentimental and forgiving colonial power. Is the bricks, for example, in danger of being completely dominated by the Chinese economy in a way that's not good for their sovereignty? Do you worry about that?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 4942 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:22:22]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We have heard those bogeymen stories before. It is a bogeyman story. We're neighbors with China. You cannot choose neighbors just as you cannot choose close relatives. We share a border of 1,000 kilometers with them. This is number one. Second, we have a centuries-long history of coexistence. We're used to it. Third, China's foreign policy philosophy is not aggressive. Its idea is to always look for compromise, and we can see that. The next point is as follows: we are always told the same bogeyman's story, and here it goes again through an euphemistic form, but it is still the same bogeyman's story. The cooperation with China keeps increasing. The pace at which China's cooperation with Europe is growing is higher and greater than that of the growth of Chinese-Russian cooperation. Ask Europeans, aren't they afraid? They might be, I don't know. But they are still trying to access China's market at all costs, especially now that they are facing economic problems. Chinese businesses are also exploring the European market. Do Chinese businesses have small presence in the United States? Yes, the political decisions are such that they are trying to limit their cooperation with China. It is to your own detriment, Mr.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5034 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:23:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Tucker, that you are limiting cooperation with China. You are hurting yourself. It is a delicate matter, and there are no silver bullet solutions, just as it is with the dollar. Before introducing any illegitimate sanctions, illegitimate in terms of the charter of the United Nations, one should think very carefully for decision-makers, this appears to be a problem.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5064 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:24:24]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You said a moment ago that the world would be a lot better if it weren't broken into competing alliances if there was cooperation globally. One of the reasons you don't have that is because the current American administration is dead set against you. Do you think if there were a new administration after Joe Biden, that you would be able to reestablish communication with the US government? Or does it not matter who the President is?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5093 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:24:53]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I will tell you, but let me finish the previous thought.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5101 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:25:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We, together with my colleague and friend, President Xi Jinping, set a goal to reach $200 billion of mutual trade with China this year. We have exceeded this level. According to our figures, our bilateral trade with China totals already $230 billion, and the Chinese statistics says it is $240 billion. One more important thing, our trade is well balanced, mutually complementary in high tech, energy, scientific research and development. It is very balanced. As for BRICS, where Russia took over the presidency this year, the BRICS countries are, by and large, developing very rapidly. Look, if memory serves me right, back in 1992, the share of the G7 countries in the world economy amounted to 47% %, whereas in 2022, it was down to, I think, a little over 30 %. The BRICS countries accounted for only 16 % in 1992, but now their share is greater than that of the G7. It has nothing to do with the events in Ukraine. This is due to the trends of global development and world economy, as I mentioned just now, and this is inevitable. This will keep happening. It is like the rise of the sun. You cannot prevent the sun from rising.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5197 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:26:37]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You have to adapt to it. How do the United States adapt? With the help of force, sanctions, pressure, bombings, and use of armed forces. This is about self-conceit. Your political establishment does not understand that the world is changing under objective circumstances. In order to preserve your level, even if someone aspires, pardon me, to the level of dominance, you have to make the right decisions in a competent and timely manner. Such brutal actions, including with regard to Russia and, say, other countries, are counterproductive. This is an obvious fact. It has already become evident. You just asked me if another leader comes and changes something. It is not about the leader. It is not about the personality of a particular person. I had a very good relationship with, say, Bush. I know that in the United States, he was portrayed as some a country boy who does not understand much. I assure you that this is not the case. I think he made a lot of mistakes with regard to Russia, too. I told you about 2008 and the decision in Bucharest to open the NATO's doors for Ukraine and so on. That happened during his presidency.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5286 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:28:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He actually exercised pressure on the Europeans. But in general, on a personal human level, I had a very good relationship with him. He was no worse than any other American, or Russian, or European politician. I assure you, he understood what he was doing as well as others. I had such personal relationship with Trump as well. It is not about the personality of the leader. It is about the elite's mindset. If the idea of domination at any cost, based also on forceful actions, dominates the American society, nothing will change. It will only get worse. But if, in the end, one comes to the awareness that the world has been changing due to the objective circumstances, and that one should be able to adapt to them in time using the advantages that the US still has today, then perhaps something may change. China's economy has become the first economy in the world in purchasing power parity. In terms of volume, it overtook the US a long time ago. The USA comes second, then India, one and a half billion people, and then Japan, with Russia in the fifth place. Russia was the first economy in Europe last year, despite all the sanctions and restrictions.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5380 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:29:40]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Is it normal from your point of view? Sanctions, restrictions, impossibility of payments in dollars, being cut off from Swift services, sanctions against our ships carrying oil, sanctions against airplanes, sanctions in everything, everywhere.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5399 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:29:59]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The largest number of sanctions in the world which are applied are applied against Russia, and we have become Europe's first economy during this time.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5410 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:30:10]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The tools that US uses don't work. Well, one has to think about what to do. If this realization comes to the ruling elites, then yes, then the first person of the state will act in anticipation of what the voters and the people who make decisions at various levels expect from this person. Then maybe something will change.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5435 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:30:35]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But you're describing two different systems. You say the leader acts in the interests of the voters, but you also say these decisions are not made by the leader, they're made by the ruling classes. You've run this country for so long, you've known all these American presidents, what are those power centers in the United States, do you think? Who actually makes the decisions?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5455 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:30:55]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't know. America is a very I don't know.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5462 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:31:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">America is a complex country, conservative on one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It's not easy for us to sort it all out. Who makes decisions in the elections? Is it It's impossible to understand this when each state has its own legislation? Each state regulates itself? Someone can be excluded from elections at the state level. It is a two-stage electoral system. It is very difficult for us to understand it. Certainly, there are two parties that are dominant, the Republicans and the Democrats, and within this party system, the centers that make decisions, that prepare decisions. Then look, Why, in my opinion, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, such an erroneous, crude, completely unjustified policy of pressure was pursued against Russia? After all, this is a policy of pressure. Nato expansion, support for the separatists in caucuses, creation of a missile defense system. These are all elements of pressure. Pressure, pressure, pressure. Then, dragging Ukraine into NATO is all about pressure, pressure, pressure. Why? I think among other things, because excessive production capacities were created. During the confrontation with the Soviet Union, there There are many centers created and specialists on the Soviet Union who could not do anything else.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5556 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:32:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">They convinced the political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling Russia, to try to break it up, to create on this territory several quasi-state entities and to subdue them in a divided form to use their combined potential for the future struggle with China. This is a mistake, including the excessive potential of those who worked for confrontation with the Soviet Union. It is necessary to get rid of this. There should be new, fresh forces, people who look into the future and understand what is happening in the world. Look at how Indonesia is developing. 600 million people. Where can we get away from that? Nowhere. We just have to assume that Indonesia will enter, it is already in, the club of the world's leading economies, no matter who likes it or dislikes it. Yes, we understand and are aware that in the United States, despite all the economic problems, the situation is still normal with the economy growing decently. The GDP is growing by 2.5%, if I'm not mistaken. But if we want to ensure the future, then we need to change our approach to what is changing. As I already said, the world would nevertheless change, regardless of how the developments in Ukraine end.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5642 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:34:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">The world is changing. In the United States themselves, experts are writing that the United States are nonetheless gradually changing their position in the world. It is your experts who write that. I just read them. The only question is how this would happen, painfully and quickly or gently and gradually. This is written by people who are not anti-American. They simply follow global development trends. That's it. In order to assess them and change policies, we need people who think, look forward, can analyze and recommend certain decisions at the level of political leaders.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5683 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:34:43]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I just have to ask You've said clearly that NATO expansion eastward is a violation of the promise you all were made in 1990. It's a threat to your country.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5693 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:34:53]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Right before you sent troops into Ukraine, the vice president of the United States went to Munich Security Conference and encouraged the President of Ukraine to join NATO.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5702 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:35:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you think that was an effort to provoke you into military action?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5706 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:35:06]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I repeat once again, we have repeatedly, repeatedly proposed to seek a solution to the problems that arose in Ukraine after 2014, coup d'État, through peaceful means.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5726 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:35:26]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But no one listened to us. And moreover, the Ukrainian leaders who were under the complete US control suddenly declared that they would not comply with the Minsky agreements. They disliked everything there and continued military activity in that territory. And in parallel, that territory was being exploited by NATO military structures under the guise of various personnel training and retraining training centers. They essentially began to create bases there. That's all. Ukraine announced that the Russians were a non-titular nationality while passing the laws that limit the rights of nontitular nationalities in Ukraine. Ukraine, having received all these Southeastern territories as a gift from the Russian people, suddenly announced that the Russians were a non-titular nationality in that territory. Is that normal?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5790 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:36:30]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">All this put together led to the decision to end the war that neo-nazis started in Ukraine in 2014.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5803 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:36:43]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate a settlement to this conflict?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5814 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:36:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't know the details. Of course, it's difficult for me to judge, but I believe he has as in any case he used to have. His father fought against the fascists, Nazis, during World War II. I once talked to him about this. I said, Volodya, what are you doing? Why are you supporting neo-nazis in Ukraine today, while your father fought against fascism. He was a frontline soldier. I will not tell you what he answered. This is a separate topic, and I think it's incorrect for me to do so. But as to the freedom of choice, why not? He came to power on the expectations of Ukrainian people that he would lead Ukraine to peace. He talked about this. It was thanks to this that he won the elections overwhelmingly. But Then when he came to power, in my opinion, he realized two things. Firstly, it is better not to clash with neo-nazis and nationalists because they are aggressive and very active. You can expect anything from them. And Secondly, the US-led West supports them and will always support those who antagonize with Russia. It is beneficial and safe. So he took the relevant position despite promising his people to end the war in Ukraine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5895 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:38:15]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He deceived his voters.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5896 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:38:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But do you think at this point, as of February 2024, he has the latitude, the freedom to speak with you or your government directly about putting an end to this, which clearly is in helping his country or the world? Can he do that, do you Why not?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5916 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:38:36]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He considers himself head of state. He won the elections. Although we believe in Russia that the coup d'État is the primary source of power for everything that happened after 2014. And in this sense, even today, government is flawed. But he considers himself the President, and he is recognized by the United States, all of Europe, and the rest of the world in such a capacity. Why not?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5943 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:39:03]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He can.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 5945 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:39:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We negotiated with Ukraine and Istanbul. We agreed. He was aware of this. Moreover, the negotiation group leader, Mr. Mr. Arhemeya is his last name, I believe, still has the faction of the ruling party, the party of the President in the Rada. He still has the presidential faction in the Rada, the country's parliament. He still sits there. He even put his preliminary signature on the document I am telling you about. But then he publicly stated to the whole world, We were ready to sign this document, but Mr. Johnson, then the Prime Minister of Great Britain, came and dissuaded us from doing this, saying it was better to fight Russia. They would give everything needed for us to return what was lost during the clashes with Russia, and we agreed with this proposal. Look, his statement has been published. He said it publicly. Can they return to this or not? The question is, do they want it or not? Further on, President of Ukraine issued a decree prohibiting negotiations with us. Let him cancel that decree, and that's it. We have never refused negotiations, indeed. We hear all the time, Is Russia ready? Yes, we have not refused.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6027 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:40:27]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It was them who publicly refused. Well, let him cancel his decree and enter into negotiations. We have never refused. And the fact that they obeyed the demand or persuasion of Mr. Johnson, the former Prime Minister of Great Britain, seems ridiculous and very sad to me because as Mr. Arakamey put it, we could have stopped those hostilities with war a year and a half ago already. But the British persuaded us, and we to refuse this. Where is Mr. Johnson now? And the war continues.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6065 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:41:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That's a good question. Where do you think he is and why did he do that?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6073 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:41:13]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Hell knows. I don't understand it myself.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6077 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:41:17]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">There was a general starting point.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6081 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:41:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">For some reason, everyone had the illusion that Russia could be defeated on the battlefield because of arrogance, because of a pure heart, but not because of a great mind.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6098 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:41:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You've described the connection between Russia and Ukraine. You've described Russia itself a couple of times as Orthodox. That's central to your understanding of Russia. You said you're Orthodox. What does that mean for you? You're a Christian leader by your own description. What effect does that have on you?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6119 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:41:59]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You know, as I already mentioned in 1988, Prince Vladimir himself was baptized, following the example of his grandmother, Princess Olga. Then he baptized his squad, and then, gradually, over the course of several years, he baptized all the Russ. It was a lengthy process, from pagans to Christians. It took many years. But in the end, this Orthodox You see, Eastern Christianity deeply rooted itself in the consciousness of the Russian people. When Russia expanded and absorbed other nations who professed Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism, Russia has always been very loyal to those people who profess other religions. This is her strength. This is absolutely clear. The fact is that the main postulates, main values are very similar, not to say the same in all world religions I've just mentioned, and which are the traditional religions of the Russian Federation, Russia. By the way, Russian authorities were always very careful about the culture and religion of those people who came into the Russian Empire. This, in my opinion, forms the basis of both security and stability of the Russian statehood. All the peoples inhabiting Russia basically consider it their motherhood. You say people move over to you or to Europe from Latin America.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6218 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:43:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">An even clearer and more understandable example, people come, but yet they have come to you or to European countries from their historical homeland. People who profess different religions in Russia consider Russia their motherland. They have no other motherland. We When we share together, this is one big family, and our traditional values are very similar. I've just mentioned one big family, but everyone has his/her own family. This is the basis of our society. If we say that the motherland and the family are specifically connected with each other, it is indeed the case since it is impossible to ensure a normal a future for our children and our families unless we ensure a normal, sustainable future for the entire country, for the motherland. That is why patriotic sentiment is so strong in Russia.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6284 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:44:44]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Can I say that the one way in which the religions are different is that Christianity is specifically a non-vital religion.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6292 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:44:52]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Jesus says, Turn the other cheek, don't kill. How can a leader who has to kill of any country, How can a leader be a Christian? How do you reconcile that to yourself?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6312 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:45:12]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It is very easy. When it comes to protecting oneself and one's family, one's homeland, we won't attack anyone. When did the developments in Ukraine start? Since the coup d'État and the hostilities in Donbas began, that's when they started. And we're protecting our people, ourselves, our homeland, and our future. As for religion in general, it's not about external manifestations. It's not about going to church every day or banging your head on the floor.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6355 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:45:55]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It is in the heart.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6359 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:45:59]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Our culture is so human-oriented. Dostoevsky, who was very well known in the West and the genius of Russian culture, Russian literature, spoke a lot about this, about the Russian soul. After all, Western society is more pragmatic. Russian people think more about the eternal, about moral values. I don't know, maybe you won't agree with me, but Western culture is more pragmatic after all.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6398 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:46:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'm not saying this is bad.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6401 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:46:41]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It makes it possible for today's golden billion to achieve good success in production, even in science and so on. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying that we look the same, but our minds are a bit of the same.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6418 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:46:58]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you see the supernatural at work as you look out across what's happening in the world now? Do you see God at work? Do you ever think to yourself, these are forces that are not human?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6433 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:47:13]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No, to be honest, I don't think so.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6440 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:47:20]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">My opinion is that the development of the world community is in accordance with the inherent laws, and those laws are what they are. It's always been this way in the history of mankind. Some nations and countries rose, became stronger and more numerous, and then left the international stage, losing the status they had accustomed to. There is probably no need for me to give examples, but we could start with the King Ishan and Horde Conquerors, the Golden Horde, and then end with the Roman Empire. It seems that there has never been anything like the Roman Empire in the history of mankind. Nevertheless, the potential of the Barbarians gradually grew, as did their population. In general, the Barbarians were getting stronger and begun to develop economically, as we would say today.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6498 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:48:18]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This eventually led to the collapse of the Roman Empire and the regime imposed by the Romans.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6508 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:48:28]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">However, it took five centuries for the Roman Empire to fall apart. The difference with what is happening now is that all the processes of change are happening at the much faster pace than in Roman times.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6527 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:48:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">When does the AI Empire start, do you think?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6537 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:48:57]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You're asking increasingly more complicated questions.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6542 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:49:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">To answer them, you need to be an expert in big numbers, big data, and AI. Mankind is currently facing many threats. Due to the genetic researches, it is now possible to create a superhuman, a specialized human being, a genetically engineered athlete, scientist, military man. There are reports that Elon Musk had already had a chip implanted in the human brain the USA.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6574 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:49:34]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">What do you think of that?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6579 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:49:39]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, I think there's no stopping Elon Musk. He will do as he sees fit. Nevertheless, you need to find some common ground with him, search for ways to persuade him. I think he's a smart person. I truly believe he is. So you need to reach an agreement with him because this process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules. Humanity has to consider what is going to happen due to the newest development in genetics or in AI. One can make an approximate prediction of what will happen.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6626 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:50:26]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Once, mankind felt an existential threat coming from nuclear weapons.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6633 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:50:33]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">All nuclear nations began to come to terms with one another since they realized the negligent use of nuclear weaponry could drive humanity to extinction.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6644 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:50:44]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">It is impossible to stop research in genetics or AI today, just as it was impossible to stop the use of gunpowder back in the day. But when a But as soon as we realize that the threat comes from unbridled and uncontrolled development of AI or genetics or any other field, the time will come to reach an international agreement on how to regulate these things.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6677 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:51:17]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I appreciate all the time you've given us. I just got to ask you one last question, and that's about someone who's very famous in the United States, probably not here, Evan Gershkowitz, who's the Wall Street Journal reporter. He's and he's been in prison for almost a year. This is a huge story in the United States, and I just want to ask you directly, without getting into the tales of it or your version of what happened, if as a sign of your decency, you would be willing to release him to us and we'll bring him back to the United States.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6716 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:51:56]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run out of them.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6729 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:52:09]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We have never seen anyone reciprocate to us in a similar manner. However, in theory, we can say that we do not rule out that we can do that if our partners take reciprocal steps. When I talk about the partners, I First of all, refer to special services. Special services are in contact with one another. They are talking about the matter in question. There is no taboo to settle this issue. We are willing to solve it, but there are certain terms being discussed via special services channels. I believe an agreement can be reached.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6779 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:52:59]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This stuff has happened for, obviously, centuries. One country catches another spy within its borders. It trades it for one of its own intel guys in another country. I think what makes it, and it's not my business, but what makes this different is the guy's obviously not a spy. He's a kid. Maybe he was breaking your law in some way, but he's not a super spy, and everybody knows that, and he's being held hostage in exchange, which is true. With respect, it's true, and everyone knows it's true. Maybe he's in a different category. Maybe it's not fair to ask for somebody else in exchange for letting him out. Maybe it degrades Russia to do that.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6820 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:53:40]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You can give a different interpretations to what can institutes a spy, but there are certain things provided by law. If person gets secret information and does that in conspiratorial manner, then this is a qualified as espionage. And that is exactly what he was doing. He was receiving classified confidential information, and he did it covertly. Maybe he did that out of carelessness or his own initiative. Considering the sheer fact this is qualified as espionage. The fact has been proven as he was caught red-handed when he was receiving this information. If it had been some far-fetched excuse, some fabrication, something not proven, it would have been different story then. But he was caught red-handed when he was secretly getting confidential information. What is it then?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6878 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:54:38]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">But are you suggesting that he was working for the US government or NATO, or he was just a reporter who was given material he wasn't supposed to have. Those seem like very different things.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6895 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:54:55]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't know who he was working for, but I would I would like to reiterate that getting classified information in secret is called espionage. He was working for the US Special Services, some other agencies. I don't think he was working for Monaco, as Monaco is hardly interested in getting that information. It is up to special services to come to an agreement. Some groundwork has been laid. There are people who, in our view, are not connected with special services. Let me tell you a story about a person serving a sentence in an Allied country of the US.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6941 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:55:41]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That person, due to patriotic sentiments, eliminated a bandit in one of the European capitals.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6950 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:55:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">During the events in the caucuses, do you know what he was doing?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6954 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:55:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I don't want to say that, but I will do it anyway.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6960 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:56:00]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He was laying our soldiers, taken prisoner, on the road and then drove his car over their heads. What person is that? Can he even be called human? But there was a Patriot who eliminated him in one of the European capitals. Whether he did it of his own volition or not, that is a different question.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6987 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:56:27]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Yeah, but Evan Mershkowitz didn't do that. That's That's a completely different… I mean, this is a 32-year-old newspaper reporter.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6994 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:56:34]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He committed something different.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 6999 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:56:39]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">He's not just a journalist.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7002 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:56:42]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I reiterate, he's a journalist who was secretly giving confidential information. Yes, it is different, but still, I'm talking about other people who are essentially controlled by the US authorities wherever they are serving a sentence. There is an ongoing dialog between the special services. This has to be resolved in a calm, responsible, and professional manner. They're keeping in touch, so let them do their work. I do not rule out that the person you refer to, Mr. Gershkowitz, may return to his motherland. By the end of the day, it does not make any sense to keep him in prison in Russia. We want the US Special Services to think about how they can contribute to achieving the goals our special services are pursuing. We are ready to talk. Moreover, the talks are on their way, and there have been many successful examples of these talks crowned with success. Probably this is going to be crowned with success as well, but we have to come to an agreement.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7074 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:57:54]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I hope you let him out. Mr. President, thank you.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7080 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:58:00]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I also want him to return to his homeland at last.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7085 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:58:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I'm absolutely sincere. But let me say once again, the dialog continues. The more public we render things of this nature, the more difficult it becomes to resolve them. Everything has to be done in calm manner.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7101 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:58:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I wonder if that's true with the war, though, also. I guess I want to ask one more question, which is, and maybe you don't want to say so for strategic reasons, but are you worried that what's happening in Ukraine could lead to something much larger and much more horrible? How motivated are you just to call the US government and say, Let's come to terms?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7133 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:58:53]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I already said that we did not refuse to talk.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7137 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:58:57]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We're willing to negotiate. It is the western side, and Ukraine is obviously a satellite state of the US. It is evident. I do not want you to take it as if I'm looking for a strong word or an insult, but we both understand what is happening. The financial support, $72 billion, was provided. Germany rings second, then other European countries come. Dozen billions of billions of US dollars are going to Ukraine. There's a huge influx of weapons. In this case, you should tell the current Ukrainian leadership to stop and come to a negotiating table, rescind this absurd decree. We did not refuse.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7187 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[01:59:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Sure, but you already said it. I didn't think you meant it as an insult because you already said correctly, it's been reported that Ukraine was prevented from negotiating a peace settlement by the former British Prime Minister acting on behalf of the Biden administration. Of course, they're a satellite. Big countries control small countries. That's not new. That's why I asked about dealing directly with the Biden administration, which is making these decisions, not President Zelenskyy of Ukraine.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7219 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:00:19]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Well, if the Zelenskyy administration in Ukraine refused to negotiate, I assume they did it under the instruction from Washington. If Washington believes it to be the wrong decision, let it abandon it. Let it find a delicate excuse so that no one is insulting. Let it come up with a way out. It was not us who made this decision, it was them. So let them go back on it.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7247 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:00:47]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">That is it.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7250 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:00:50]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">However, they made the wrong decision, and now we have to look for a way out of this situation to correct their mistakes. They did it, so let them correct it themselves. We support this.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7262 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:01:02]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I just want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying. I don't think that I am. I think you're saying you want a negotiated settlement to what's happening in Ukraine. Right.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7276 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:01:16]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We made it. We prepared the huge document in Istanbul that was initialed by the head of the Ukrainian delegation. He had fixed his signature to some of the provisions, not to all of it. He He put his signature, and then he himself said, We were ready to sign it, and the war would have been over long ago, 18 months ago. However, Prime Minister Johnson came, talked us out of it, and we missed that chance. Well, you missed it. You made a mistake. Let them get back to that. That is all. Why do we have to bother ourselves and correct somebody else's mistakes? I know one can say it is our mistake. It was us who intensified the situation and decided to put an end to the war that started in 2014 in Donbas, as I have already said, by means of weapons. Let me get back to furthering history. I already told you this. We were just discussing. Let us go back to 1991, when we were promised that NATO would not expand, to 2008, when the doors to NATO opened to the Declaration of State create sovereignty of Ukraine, declaring Ukraine a neutral state.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7354 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:02:34]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Let us go back to the fact that NATO and US military bases started to appear on the territory of Ukraine, creating threats to us. Let us go back to coup d'État in Ukraine in 2014. It is pointless, though, isn't it? We may go back and forth endlessly, but they stop negotiations. Is it a mistake? Yes. Correct it. We are ready territory. What else is needed?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7381 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:03:01]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Do you think it's too humiliating at this point for NATO to accept Russian control of what was, two years ago, Ukrainian territory?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7394 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:03:14]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">I I said to let them think how to do it with dignity.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7401 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:03:21]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">There are options if there is a will. Up until now, there has been the uproar and screaming about inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield. Now, they are apparently coming to realize that it is difficult to achieve, if possible at all. In my opinion, It is impossible by definition. It is never going to happen. It seems to me that now, those who are in power in the West have come to realize this as well.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7436 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:03:56]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">If so, if the realization has When they set in, they have to think what to do next.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7443 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:04:03]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">We are ready for this dialog.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7445 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:04:05]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Would you be willing to say, Congratulations NATO, you won, and just keep the situation where it is now?</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7457 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:04:17]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">You know, it is a subject matter for the negotiations. No one is willing to conduct, or to put it more accurately, they're willing but do not know how to do I know they want it. It is not just I see it, but I know they do want it, but they're struggling to understand how to do it. They have driven the situation to the point where we are at. It is not us who have done that. It is our partners, opponents who have done that. Well, now let them think how to reverse the situation. We're not against it. It would be funny if it were not so sad.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7500 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:05:00]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">This endless mobilization in Ukraine, the hysteria, the domestic problems.</p></div><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7509 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:05:09]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">Sooner or later, it will result in agreement. You know, this probably sounds strange given the current situation, but the relations between the two peoples will be rebuilt anyway. It will take a lot of time, but they will heal. I'll give you very unusual examples. There is a combat encounter on the battlefield. Here's a specific example. Ukrainian soldiers got encircled. This is an example from real life. Our soldiers were shouting to them, There is no chance. Surrender yourselves. Come out and will be alive. Suddenly, the Ukrainian soldiers were screaming from there in Russian, Perfect Russians, saying, Russians do not surrender, and all of them perished. They still identify themselves as Russian. What is happening is, to a certain extent, an element of a civil war. Everyone in the West thinks that the Russian people have been split by hostilities forever. No, they will be reunited. The unity is still there. Why are the Ukrainian authorities dismantling the Ukrainian Orthodox Church? Because it brings together not only the territory, it brings together our souls. No one will be to separate the soul. Shall we end here or is there anything else?</p></div><p></p><div class="hsp-paragraph" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: initial; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px 0px 1em; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; scroll-margin-top: 72px;" title="Paragraph From 7632 seconds"><span class="hs-font-positive small-base hsp-paragraph-timestamp" style="align-items: center; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; display: flex; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px 0px 4px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; transition: color 0.1s linear 0s;" title="Timestamp">[02:07:12]</span><p class="hs-font-positive base hsp-paragraph-words" style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #202020; font-size: 18px; height: fit-content; line-height: 24px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px;">No, I think that's great. Thank you, Mr. President.</p></div>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-74570280348399353382024-02-07T21:23:00.003+00:002024-02-07T21:48:53.413+00:00As Falácias Lógicas Infantis do Papa Francisco em Defesa da Bênção a Homossexuais <p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaWQnAdoVPoY0zDHtpPE8uOp1LrgnijpnUceNMMb6-2cGzrs6u6hj2HXsBCHN4Uh_ulnCM-bdp9XNgOEQXDEoxpTHuTQfDDiMQ_KzGMGKB1vDoj_qF7kuNyrlQ8Y6HSps0KzTjbzyxbLVMLbyEOwshPlj3Sz9PT6CpTBvdj6JWPn9q-DKk4Oo6lqzuUP0X/s1044/2024_02_07_18.01.37_edit.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="978" data-original-width="1044" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaWQnAdoVPoY0zDHtpPE8uOp1LrgnijpnUceNMMb6-2cGzrs6u6hj2HXsBCHN4Uh_ulnCM-bdp9XNgOEQXDEoxpTHuTQfDDiMQ_KzGMGKB1vDoj_qF7kuNyrlQ8Y6HSps0KzTjbzyxbLVMLbyEOwshPlj3Sz9PT6CpTBvdj6JWPn9q-DKk4Oo6lqzuUP0X/s320/2024_02_07_18.01.37_edit.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Francisco disse em defesa do seu documento que aprova bênção a casais gays: "Ninguém se escandaliza se eu dou bênção para um homem de negócio que pode está explorando pessoas. E este é um pecado grave. Enquanto eles ficam escandalizados se eu abençoo um homossexual. Isto é hipocrisia."</p><p>Esse argumento do papa é muito infantil, típico de gente sem qualquer formação teológica e mesmo de gente sem qualquer formação.</p><p>Eu costumo dar aulas de falácias lógicas (erros lógicos de pensamento). A fala do papa tem pelo menos três falácias lógicas:</p><p>1) Falácia do espantalho. Papa criou um problema que não existe. A questão do documento dele trata de casais homossexuais e não de um indivíduo homossexual. Ninguem condenou bênção a indivíduos que pedem bênçãos, seja quem forem.</p><p>2) Falácia do falso dilema. Não existe relação moral próxima entre homem de negócio que explora trabalhadores e homossexuais. Uma pessoa pode ser as duas coisas ao mesmo tempo. Eu sei que pecado de explorar o pobre e o pecado da sodomía são dois pecados gravíssimos que "clamam ao céu por vingança". Mas duvido que Francisco queira ressaltar isso. </p><p>3) Falsa generalização. Não existem diferentes tipos de pessoas, sendo umas que se escandalizam com o explorador e outro tipo que só se escandaliza com bênção a homossexuais. Uma pessoa pode se escandalizar com ambas bênçãos ou com nenhuma.</p><p>Outra coisa, o uso de dilemas é típico do pensamento marxista, como eu mostro em meu livro Ética Católica para Economia. Ver s humanidade como tipos de gente separadas, umas contra as outras.</p><p>Francisco cada vez me lembra um ateu anticatolico que nunca estudou a doutrina. Triste. </p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-30752357318949590182024-02-02T14:50:00.001+00:002024-02-02T14:50:22.449+00:0090 Padres e Autores Católicos Pedem Fim do Fiducia Supplicans<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg-2jOPcBULrbxOndwqBBW0GvAuDrOI5ft5v16QoqWFZDt3s5Dv3WK98w9hgKviyQw56BRyOEceTLoerKSooC7YWzk2VKXHXAlq2bpaNnDxaVk-zHoUcK4LjnqK8p21cfwW8dZBMTOXlvE25DXdPSSPiZx8XNPj8nwGECZlO7F8tzIKqYTTkjtAYHrL5oFu" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="139" data-original-width="678" height="133" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg-2jOPcBULrbxOndwqBBW0GvAuDrOI5ft5v16QoqWFZDt3s5Dv3WK98w9hgKviyQw56BRyOEceTLoerKSooC7YWzk2VKXHXAlq2bpaNnDxaVk-zHoUcK4LjnqK8p21cfwW8dZBMTOXlvE25DXdPSSPiZx8XNPj8nwGECZlO7F8tzIKqYTTkjtAYHrL5oFu=w640-h133" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p>Um grupo de <a href="https://edwardpentin.co.uk/group-of-catholic-clergy-and-laity-issue-filial-appeal-calling-for-withdrawal-of-fiducia-supplicans-3/">90 padres, académicos e autores católicos emitiu um apelo filial aos cardeais e bispos, apelando-lhes a proibirem imediatamente a aplicação de Fiducia Supplicans</a> nas suas dioceses e a pedirem ao Papa Francisco que “retire urgentemente” o documento.</p><p>Os autores do apelo filial convidam pastores, clérigos, acadêmicos, professores, médicos e outros indivíduos qualificados a adicionar seus nomes aos atuais signatários, fornecendo seu nome, qualificações, cargo e localização até 15 de fevereiro para <b><span style="color: #990000;">filialappeal@gmail.com</span></b>. Uma lista definitiva de todos os signatários será publicada em 17 de fevereiro.</p><p>Já pedi a inclusão do meu humilde nome.</p><p>Abaixo vai a tradução do Apelo Filial aos cardeais, bispos e ao papa.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">Apelo Filial</span></b></p><p style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">A todos os Cardeais e Bispos da Igreja Católica</span></b></p><p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Suas Eminências, Suas Excelências:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Nós, abaixo assinados, sacerdotes, estudiosos e autores católicos, escrevemos-vos por ocasião do último documento publicado pelo Dicastério para a Doutrina da Fé, Fiducia Supplicans, que tanto escândalo causou na Igreja durante este último Natal.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Como é sabido, uma parte relevante do episcopado mundial praticamente a rejeitou, devido à sua evidente ruptura com a Escritura e a Tradição da Igreja. <b>Vinte conferências episcopais, dezenas de prelados individuais e até cardeais investidos nos mais altos cargos, como o Cardeal Müller e o Cardeal Sarah, expressaram um julgamento condenatório inequívoco.</b> O mesmo aconteceu com as Confrarias do Clero Católico do Reino Unido, dos EUA e da Austrália.<b> Nunca na história da Igreja Católica um documento do Magistério Romano sofreu uma rejeição tão forte.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>Na verdade, apesar da sua reafirmação explícita da doutrina tradicional da Igreja sobre o Casamento, verifica-se que a prática pastoral que o documento permite está em oposição direta a ela</b>. Tanto é assim que o documento foi recebido muito favoravelmente pelos poucos episcopados e prelados que durante décadas defenderam abertamente uma mudança na doutrina sobre a moralidade sexual. <b>É evidente que a mensagem prática que esta nova declaração transmite está muito mais alinhada com o programa e as ideias daqueles que querem mudar a doutrina, do que com a própria doutrina que o documento pretende manter intacta.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>O documento tenta efetivamente introduzir uma separação entre doutrina e liturgia, por um lado, e prática pastoral, por outro</b>. <b>Mas isto é impossível</b>: de fato a pastoral, como toda acção, pressupõe sempre uma teoria e, portanto, <b>se a pastoral realiza algo que não corresponde à doutrina, o que na verdade se propõe é uma doutrina diferente</b>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">A bênção de um casal (seja “litúrgica” ou “pastoral”) é, por assim dizer, um sinal natural. O gesto concreto diz algo com naturalidade e, portanto, tem um efeito comunicativo natural e imediato, que não pode ser alterado artificialmente pelas advertências verbais do documento. <b>Uma bênção como tal, na linguagem universal da humanidade, implica sempre uma aprovação daquilo que está sendo abençoado.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Portanto, o sinal concreto que é dado com tanta bênção, diante de todo o mundo, é que os “casais irregulares”, tanto extraconjugais como homossexuais, segundo a Igreja Católica, seriam agora aceitáveis a Deus, precisamente no tipo de união que os configura especificamente como casais. <b>Também não faz sentido separar “casal” de “união”, conforme cardeal Fernández tentou fazê-lo, pois um casal é um casal pela união que lhe dá existência.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">O fato de outras circunstâncias significativas e acidentais, como o momento, o local, ou ornamentos como flores e roupas de casamento serem excluídas do ato, não altera a natureza do ato, uma vez que o gesto central e essencial permanece. Além disso, todos sabemos por experiência quanto valem essas “restrições” e quanto tempo duram.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>O fato é que um sacerdote abençoa duas pessoas que se apresentam como casal, no sentido sexual, e precisamente um casal definido pela sua relação objectivamente pecaminosa. Portanto – independentemente das intenções e interpretações do documento, ou das explicações que o sacerdote possa tentar dar – esta ação será o sinal visível e tangível de uma doutrina diferente, que contradiz a doutrina tradicional</b>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Lembremos que a doutrina tradicional sobre o tema deve ser considerada infalível, pois é inequivocamente confirmada pela Escritura e pela Tradição, uma tradição universal e ininterrupta, ubique et sempre. E é preciso lembrar que esta é uma doutrina do direito natural, que não permite qualquer alteração.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Na prática, os fiéis nem sequer estarão conscientes das sutis justificações teóricas introduzidas pela Declaração, muito menos daquelas que foram acrescentadas no recente esclarecimento sobre a Declaração. A mensagem que é efetivamente lançada, e que o povo de Deus, e o mundo inteiro, inevitavelmente registará e já está a registar é que: A Igreja Católica finalmente evoluiu, e agora aceita as uniões homossexuais, e, mais genericamente, as uniões extraconjugais.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>Esta situação justifica plenamente a rejeição decidida de tantas conferências episcopais, de tantos prelados, de tantos estudiosos e de tantos leigos comuns. Neste contexto, definitivamente não é justificável, especialmente para um cardeal ou um bispo, permanecer em silêncio, uma vez que o escândalo que já ocorreu é grave e público, e se não for interrompido, será cada vez mais amplificado</b>. <b>A ameaça não se torna menor, mas mais grave, pois o erro vem da Sé Romana e está destinado a escandalizar todos os fiéis, e sobretudo os pequenos, os simples fiéis que não têm como se orientar e defender nesta confusão : “Quem ofender um destes pequeninos que acreditam em mim, melhor lhe seria que lhe pendurassem ao pescoço uma pedra de moinho de burro e se afogasse nas profundezas do mar</b>” (Mt 18,6).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Os pastores e todos aqueles que têm alguma responsabilidade na Igreja foram constituídos como sentinelas: “<b>se o sentinela vir a espada e não fizer soar a trombeta, de sorte que o alarme não seja dado às gentes e que a espada venha a tirar a vida de alguém, este, é certo perecerá devido à iniquidade do sentinela, mas eu pedirei conta do seu sangue ao sentinela</b>".</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">À luz do acima exposto, imploramos fervorosamente que você:</span></p><p><span style="color: #990000; font-family: arial;"><b>(1) Siga o exemplo corajoso de tantos irmãos bispos em todo o mundo: por favor, proíba imediatamente a aplicação deste documento na sua diocese.</b></span></p><p><span style="color: #990000; font-family: arial;"><b>(2) Por favor, peça diretamente ao Papa que retire urgentemente este infeliz documento, que está em contradição tanto com a Escritura como com a Tradição universal e ininterrupta da Igreja e que produz claramente um grave escândalo.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Neste momento difícil, uma palavra clara de verdade seria o melhor exemplo da vossa dedicação fiel e corajosa ao povo de Deus que vos foi confiado, um sinal de fidelidade à verdadeira missão do Papado e ao mesmo tempo a melhor ajuda para o próprio Papa, uma eloquente “correção fraterna”, da qual necessita urgentemente neste último e mais crítico período do seu pontificado e provavelmente da sua vida. Se agirmos prontamente, ainda há alguma esperança de que ele possa resgatar o seu pontificado e a sua própria pessoa de uma mancha que de outra forma poderia pesar indelevelmente sobre ele, não só na história, mas na eternidade.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Convite: pastores, clérigos, acadêmicos, professores, médicos e outras pessoas qualificadas poderão submeter as suas assinaturas a esta lista nas próximas duas semanas. Forneça seu nome, qualificações, cargo e localização até 15 de fevereiro, para filialappeal@gmail.com. Uma lista definitiva de todos os signatários será publicada em 17 de fevereiro.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Lista de signatários (em 2 de fevereiro)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><br /></span></p><p></p><ul style="text-align: left;"><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Edmund P. Adamus, MA, Secretary to Commission of Inquiry into Discrimination Against Christians, UK</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Wolfgang R. Ahrens, PhD Philosophy, Chile</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Sergio González Arrieta, MA in Classics and History, Chile</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Gil Bailie, Founder and President of the Cornerstone Forum</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Heinz-Lothar and Raphaela Barth, Bonn, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Donna F. Bethell, JD, USA</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Judie Brown, President, American Life League, Falmouth, Virginia</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Dr Sergio R. Castaño, CONICET, Argentina</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Paweł Chmielewski, commentator for Polonia Christiana, Warsaw, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Michelle Cretella, MD, USA</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Edgardo J. Cruz Ramos, President, Una Voce Puerto Rico</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Tomasz Dekert, religious studies scholar, Rajbrot, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Deacon Julian L. Delgado, MD</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Roberto de Mattei, historian, President of Lepanto Foundation, Rome, Italy</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Deacon Nick Donnelly, MA, England</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">C. Joseph Doyle, Executive Director, Catholic Action League of Massachusetts</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Angelo Luigi Fratus, Montfort Missionary, Zambia</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Stanisław Gibziński, Portsmouth Diocese, England</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Corrado Gnerre, professor of theology and founder of Il cammino dei tre sentieri</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Maria Guarini, author, Editor of Chiesa e postconcilio</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Michael K. Hageböck, headmaster and journalist, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Michael Hichborn, President of the Lepanto Institute, Virginia</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Maike Hickson, PhD, Front Royal, VA</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Prof. Dr.rer.nat. Dr.rer.pol. Rudolf Hilfer, Stuttgart, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Joseph Illo, Pastor, Star of the Sea Parish, San Francisco, California</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Marek Jurek, former Marshal of the Polish Parlament, Wólka Kozodawska, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Bogusław Kiernicki, President, Saint Benedict Foundation, Dębogóra, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Kacper Kita, publicist, international policy analyst, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Donald Kloster, Lumen Christi Academy Principal, Pipe Creek, TX</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Dr Dr.med. Adorján F. Kovács, Frankfurt am Main, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Thaddeus Kozinski, Memoria College</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Gabriele Kuby, sociologist and author, Prien am Chiemsee, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Peter A. Kwasniewski, PhD, Lincoln, Nebraska</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr John R. T. Lamont, D.Phil.</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Philip F. Lawler, author, Editor of Catholic World News</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Leila M. Lawler, author</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Joseph Levine, Pastor, Holy Family Catholic Church, Burns, Oregon</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Pedro L. Llera, director of educational centers, Gobiendes, Spain</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Maria Madise, Managing Director, Voice of the Family, UK</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Patrick H. Magee FLHF, Fall River, MA</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Regis Martin, professor of theology, Franciscan University Steubenville</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Brian M. McCall, Orpha and Maurice Merrill Chair in Law, University of Oklahoma</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Deacon Eugene McGuirk, Front Royal, Virginia</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Justyna Melonowska, psychologist and philosopher, Warszawa, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Cor Mennen, emeritus lecturer in Canon Law, Seminary of ‘s-Hertogenbosch</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Paweł Milcarek, Editor of Christianitas, Brwinów, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Sebastian Morello, PhD, Senior Editor of The European Conservative</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Alfredo Morselli, Italy</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Gerald E. Murray, JCD, Pastor, Church of the Holy Family, New York, NY</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dina Nerozzi, MD, child psychiatrist and endocrinologist, former professor at the University of Rome</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Doyen Nguyen, MD, STD, moral theologian, bioethicist, USA/Portugal</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Daniel R. Nolan, FSSP, Littleton, CO</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Deacon Dr Bart Overman, Den Bosch, The Netherlands</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Michael Pakaluk, PhD, professor of ethics and social philosophy, Washington, DC</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Gottfried Paschke, theologian, retired professor of mathematics, Bad Homburg, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Paolo Pasqualucci, retired Professor of Philososophy, Faculty of Law, Perugia, Italy</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rod Pead, Editor, Christian Order, UK</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Claudio Pierantoni, PhD History of Christianism, PhD Philosophy, Chile</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. John A. Perricone, PhD, adjunct professor of philosophy, Iona College in New Rochelle, New York</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Prof. Thomas Pink, emeritus professor of philosophy, King’s College, London</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Andrew Pinsent, MA, Dphil, PhB, STB, PhL, PhD, FRSA, University of Oxford, UK</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Tomasz Rowiński, historian of ideas, Editor of Christianitas, Grodzisk Mazowiecki, Poland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Anna Rist, retired professor of classics, Toronto, Canada</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">John Rist, PhD, retired professor of classics and early Chrisitian philosophy and theology</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Luis Román, theologian and Catholic commentator, Florida</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Jesse Romero, Catholic apologist, evangelist, author, Queen Creek, Arizona.</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Eric Sammons, Editor, Crisis Magazine</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr César Félix Sánchez Martínez, professor of philosophy, Universidad Nacional de San Agustín, Perú</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Tommaso Scandroglio, author, Italy</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Wolfram Schrems, Mag. theol., Mag. phil., catechist, pro-life activist, Vienna, Austria</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Anna Silvas, specialist in Greek Fathers, retired adjunct, UNE, Australia</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Robert Sirico, President, St. John Henry Newman Institute, Grand Rapids, Michigan</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Michael Sirilla, Professor of Theology, Franciscan University of Steubenville, Ohio</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">John Smeaton, Co-founder of Voice of the Family, UK</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Tam X. Tran, S.T.L., Pastor of Our Lady of Vietnam Catholic Church, Silver Spring, Maryland</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Rev. Glen Tattersall, Pastor of St. John Newman Parish, Melbourne, Australia</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Inge M. Thürkauf, actress, journalist, pro-family public speaker, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">José Antonio Ureta, author, Paris, France</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Aldo Maria Valli, writer, Rome, Italy</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Christine de Marcellus Vollmer, President of PROVIVE, ALAFA, Former Member of PAL, Venezuela</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Gerard van den Aardweg, author, psychologist and psychotherapist, The Netherlands</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Mathias von Gersdorff, author and pro-life activist, Frankfurt, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Prof. Dr Berthold Wald, retired professor of philosophy, Münster, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Thomas Ward, President, John Paul II Academy of Human Life and the Family</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Leonard P. Wessell, Dr.Phil., PhD, emeritus professor, German Studies, University of Colorado</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">John-Henry Westen, Co-founder and Editor-in-chief, LifeSiteNews</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Elizabeth D. Wickham, PhD, Executive Director, Lifetree.org, Raleigh, North Carolina</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Timothy Williams, professor of French, Franciscan University of Steubenville, Ohio</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Chilton Williamson, writer, former editor at National Review and Chronicles, Laramie, Wyoming</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Dr Hubert Windisch, priest, retired professor of pastoral theology, Burglengenfeld, Germany</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Deacon Timothy Woods, Huntington, Indiana</span></li><li><span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 16px;">Elizabeth F. Yore, Esq., Founder of Yore Children, Chicago, Illinois</span></li></ul><p></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><br /></span></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-72152261266342616172024-02-01T21:09:00.005+00:002024-02-01T21:43:33.501+00:00Fazendeiros Europeus em Revolta <p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgWtPLr_6negyu3m-jBFxRpY1_-GTCIZuCa3j3afAcTJo_lyp1u1fgXzDwqDsxUxcJX95ybbScysdQOrD4eI_jqfagTvJhb4gOJycd7ttG1Bd9aaFL2ZoI2I8iETM6T8ModZVx1fU9UHdtVfgILqbGLchOYKKTCp546cmHlTXvXYRFB4BW5UxoOBZuD0kHe/s500/170682091017080741844217039541.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="282" data-original-width="500" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgWtPLr_6negyu3m-jBFxRpY1_-GTCIZuCa3j3afAcTJo_lyp1u1fgXzDwqDsxUxcJX95ybbScysdQOrD4eI_jqfagTvJhb4gOJycd7ttG1Bd9aaFL2ZoI2I8iETM6T8ModZVx1fU9UHdtVfgILqbGLchOYKKTCp546cmHlTXvXYRFB4BW5UxoOBZuD0kHe/s320/170682091017080741844217039541.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Há semanas que tratores e caminhões na Alemanha, França e Bélgica, pelo menos, invadem cidades para manifestar contra políticas europeias que aumentam os impostos e os custos que eles têm de pagar. Essas políticas são estimuladas especialmente pelo lobby ambientalista.</p><p>Os manifestantes chegam a jogar estrume em prédios públicos e avançam contra barricadas. Mas os jornais brasileiros e do mundo fazem de conta que nada acontece.</p><p>O canal de <a href="https://thyselfolord.blogspot.com/2024/02/fazendeiros-europeus-em-revolta.html?m=1">Sérgio Tavares de Portugal no YouTube e no Instagrama acompanha os fatos.</a></p><p>Hoje <a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chaos-erupts-brussels-rubber-bullets-fired-farmers-protesting-outside-eu-parliament">eles atacaram o prédio da União Europeia em Bruxelas. </a></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDy7OZ8a8SYfVMJPO3P1yrxGxpJgvS5ywW2St4EtOUGsUxTUR0y6KISvIh5v8ai2zttwLHw2L10JEfFcJMZIsVnxBIZ29JERw1_Br4joKRwY_jeUXNpPbrMrRvminWv6t7g1JVfbO_YCewc2tNWSm4TWil6RsWB6Qk0n0sF_sIC2iUVpYxQOOcIXKrC8Mn/s500/17068215894911485960856833991106.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="315" data-original-width="500" height="202" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDy7OZ8a8SYfVMJPO3P1yrxGxpJgvS5ywW2St4EtOUGsUxTUR0y6KISvIh5v8ai2zttwLHw2L10JEfFcJMZIsVnxBIZ29JERw1_Br4joKRwY_jeUXNpPbrMrRvminWv6t7g1JVfbO_YCewc2tNWSm4TWil6RsWB6Qk0n0sF_sIC2iUVpYxQOOcIXKrC8Mn/s320/17068215894911485960856833991106.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpYlgSnyYtacQ5jw2t9ZWK2iw3646Pj5FEypXvkKgil3wempu5UpIV599qqYd3mQgpukYeKlJ9xSPvuuVqY7bkg7V6knEjl-f93lf5kKHl3tRvBsqTxAr7w-yD8EWQbkvlf0Y2eiZXQqwtqj2SuZJX-bbU23RbPItyLiUNaC92Xp7Z8cCUcNDZ4kpySb2_/s500/17068215783967175540932747578176.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="326" data-original-width="500" height="209" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpYlgSnyYtacQ5jw2t9ZWK2iw3646Pj5FEypXvkKgil3wempu5UpIV599qqYd3mQgpukYeKlJ9xSPvuuVqY7bkg7V6knEjl-f93lf5kKHl3tRvBsqTxAr7w-yD8EWQbkvlf0Y2eiZXQqwtqj2SuZJX-bbU23RbPItyLiUNaC92Xp7Z8cCUcNDZ4kpySb2_/s320/17068215783967175540932747578176.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLhACnDbrHr3lCXZnBKa6LtKPVhk5MA7zp2TTqzSzbQDE6cm5jggfyeH7LCmFAL5J5yoB2MDil3hxcXJ_u-QoI3Utfhz4hIda63YbxUQgYIeKbTWMfOIus7dLaS5I-AqhQmpmQvDpJQCAo_Z1nn6HeagmxWTV7s4j_MiATrdZGD-O-2xv1_Gzcx52hpcx0/s1754/2024_02_01_18.07.53_edit.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1754" data-original-width="1080" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLhACnDbrHr3lCXZnBKa6LtKPVhk5MA7zp2TTqzSzbQDE6cm5jggfyeH7LCmFAL5J5yoB2MDil3hxcXJ_u-QoI3Utfhz4hIda63YbxUQgYIeKbTWMfOIus7dLaS5I-AqhQmpmQvDpJQCAo_Z1nn6HeagmxWTV7s4j_MiATrdZGD-O-2xv1_Gzcx52hpcx0/w246-h400/2024_02_01_18.07.53_edit.jpg" width="246" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chaos-erupts-brussels-rubber-bullets-fired-farmers-protesting-outside-eu-parliament"><br /></a></p><p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chaos-erupts-brussels-rubber-bullets-fired-farmers-protesting-outside-eu-parliament"><br /></a></p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-82068442768832069402024-01-30T11:24:00.007+00:002024-01-30T11:29:52.354+00:00Sim! Yes! Mães que Negam o Acesso de Pais aos Filhos Devem Ser Presas<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgmq9nfxvElJvX9o7mPcYQNiwSLtozcAgaedNv_ZezIdk8cmzuo47hQnzvw3VyH-GhUMjAeGeISXWl1q4yqeZD1mgvquzdbQjZGcULjdFr0LbxYI5y7_Ce-t8wOeOV0Zv8GE9H9Zdm39TFCBNGR_hc_YXi08u5mmsvoGjRPROb5vciaNed-rw00MLPiHg_I" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="587" data-original-width="562" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgmq9nfxvElJvX9o7mPcYQNiwSLtozcAgaedNv_ZezIdk8cmzuo47hQnzvw3VyH-GhUMjAeGeISXWl1q4yqeZD1mgvquzdbQjZGcULjdFr0LbxYI5y7_Ce-t8wOeOV0Zv8GE9H9Zdm39TFCBNGR_hc_YXi08u5mmsvoGjRPROb5vciaNed-rw00MLPiHg_I" width="287" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Sim, como defendeu o jornal escocês The Mail: mães que negam aos pais o acesso a seus próprios filhos devem ser presas ou multadas ou perderem a custódia dos filhos!</p><p>Não importa o tipo de relação que o casal teve, as crianças precisam dos pais da mesma forma que precisam das mães. Da mesma forma, um pai não pode negar o acesso da mãe aos filhos. Mas a justiça em todo mundo tende a desprezar a importância dos pais, enquanto exalta as mães, o que por si só revela a perturbação do mundo.</p><p>Isso é um assunto bem mais importante para uma sociedade do que qualquer tópico econômico ou político.</p><p>Esse tipo de medida mostra a importância das crianças, a importância dos pais, a importância dos homens, neste mundo cada vez mais efeminado e perturbado que vivemos. Serve inclusive para dizer aos homens: sejam responsáveis, cuidem de seus filhos!</p><p><br /></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-9190881473969878752024-01-29T16:19:00.002+00:002024-01-29T16:19:16.466+00:00Francisco: Ou Você é Homofóbico Africano ou Ideólogo de Seita Pequena<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhT5vVTTaYjBG1tDIgufn2DN33uHBP3F3VTjCLmtXgPfi5gMLbnmlsa_6XkrAye7kwm1wMk8IwdBWmRK-fSnfWhZcsGR84BiqJkRADUn6PSK9mqNW_cLslMxLDhBwh9wzyZHm6RTBHGNtjk9yet7urtN-gccJwEUGaVlPM2uYm6M0srUrP35Q1dTvC_O7ww" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="534" data-original-width="471" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhT5vVTTaYjBG1tDIgufn2DN33uHBP3F3VTjCLmtXgPfi5gMLbnmlsa_6XkrAye7kwm1wMk8IwdBWmRK-fSnfWhZcsGR84BiqJkRADUn6PSK9mqNW_cLslMxLDhBwh9wzyZHm6RTBHGNtjk9yet7urtN-gccJwEUGaVlPM2uYm6M0srUrP35Q1dTvC_O7ww=w353-h400" width="353" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Se você recusou as bênçãos a casais homossexuais ou casais irregulares do Fiducia Supplicans, você é entre duas coisas, segundo Francisco: ou faz parte de uma seita pequena de ideólogos ou é um africano homofóbico. </p><p>Sim, são palavras desastrosas e terríveis do papa. </p><p>Mostra desprezo pela Bíblia, pelas palavras de Cristo, pelo Sacramento do Casamento, pelo Teologia Moral da Igreja, pela Tradição da Igreja, pelos cardeais e bispos em todo mundo (não apenas na África) que disseram NÃO ao documento dele.</p><p>Não pode ser pior que isso.</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh9_iKXVUMcQmOwh3TeHQK8fu9Xg4nPGQJ3wcQIIkMk0K1mZU4Oxk8KJoO-k7BcHwPFbSB4LvCGnYSirNBoBb_zBjKWytHy3uqKuTk1tyntR00RZmG2nNdzscdyjVCoZkkEhjtKnl9fR8fsqeVD6-I0MrIs8t6xZy_BsEtgDsgMOt6l7XZxAxffFTSyD9Uz" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="387" data-original-width="476" height="325" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh9_iKXVUMcQmOwh3TeHQK8fu9Xg4nPGQJ3wcQIIkMk0K1mZU4Oxk8KJoO-k7BcHwPFbSB4LvCGnYSirNBoBb_zBjKWytHy3uqKuTk1tyntR00RZmG2nNdzscdyjVCoZkkEhjtKnl9fR8fsqeVD6-I0MrIs8t6xZy_BsEtgDsgMOt6l7XZxAxffFTSyD9Uz=w400-h325" width="400" /></a></div><br /><br /><p></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgK2mp74tWz6Cnq0JSdTM-mL0EOM1BfEiXfk5-st2_LFiJ7NA0bgS-2_HL61vqKVjMHYn-aq5GoJYVb0HODRpT7MahtiAlEliPHyrQX2Yqb1oayefMfqG1VtI3jvyp4q9z9P13vOiATUd3G_CwrFM5wI_kI1bM2enPAKGBZgjxp69q-384ZYqbwsD-1OGzP" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="462" data-original-width="475" height="389" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgK2mp74tWz6Cnq0JSdTM-mL0EOM1BfEiXfk5-st2_LFiJ7NA0bgS-2_HL61vqKVjMHYn-aq5GoJYVb0HODRpT7MahtiAlEliPHyrQX2Yqb1oayefMfqG1VtI3jvyp4q9z9P13vOiATUd3G_CwrFM5wI_kI1bM2enPAKGBZgjxp69q-384ZYqbwsD-1OGzP=w400-h389" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg-3z2QXZP8S1FyrvNx-ACLBLMgph9uXG_teM2JAvIY2qQowqtZOAPTu6ddDmiS5g0Y4Xg5Nk0FsksuHtc7aT5dfmWMM_UlKHLY5u76BKcURAjByO7iqHLJ4Sn9H-UeyKFvQVLXIKPQY6JAB3F6e_KX9QY2Xl_gYrIE1uLJE-lwB7xQyvrRS1BeX38-xEaF" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="435" data-original-width="468" height="372" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg-3z2QXZP8S1FyrvNx-ACLBLMgph9uXG_teM2JAvIY2qQowqtZOAPTu6ddDmiS5g0Y4Xg5Nk0FsksuHtc7aT5dfmWMM_UlKHLY5u76BKcURAjByO7iqHLJ4Sn9H-UeyKFvQVLXIKPQY6JAB3F6e_KX9QY2Xl_gYrIE1uLJE-lwB7xQyvrRS1BeX38-xEaF=w400-h372" width="400" /></a></div><br /><br /></div><br /><br /><p></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-91185963142430192462024-01-28T20:24:00.003+00:002024-01-28T20:44:45.864+00:00Padre Emmanuel Perrier: "Deus Nunca Abençoa o Mal". "A Igreja Abençoa Só o que Cristo Abençoa"<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgtVtvnbUgqo7gOEdOZbvNdxYl9vtdKHHjnWC-IIXh_neS0kKajD9kJstUn6W96qjOBpm_yfWv0oZb3wZ6z_1KN9GXx7uSgthS-r3a2i29v-bwl5Zl8MPjtVokJnRIptTkwLdssS88YmhfXpmSWxyI47lVktgsvjGDYDwZ-JouxQuwiJ49ZrU03bqFbrHFr" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="391" data-original-width="742" height="169" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgtVtvnbUgqo7gOEdOZbvNdxYl9vtdKHHjnWC-IIXh_neS0kKajD9kJstUn6W96qjOBpm_yfWv0oZb3wZ6z_1KN9GXx7uSgthS-r3a2i29v-bwl5Zl8MPjtVokJnRIptTkwLdssS88YmhfXpmSWxyI47lVktgsvjGDYDwZ-JouxQuwiJ49ZrU03bqFbrHFr" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiY4D2Pmqzor2FvOk2kyQGwmTc-PfndAQ504YhjYtLGxu0S0PDfk4bo8FIsTWsqiOsMmbvSp35iCky4_3l9oleJh-pAkH-jU3a3mkU-iyYGvna_fiUtjaLKM0E2RrhLDjvGl23zUaHXigHfFKo1Ay3XGgS0slm_tRLPlaiI6n5F0UjLm5GUkKazuINvwp2v" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="296" data-original-width="541" height="175" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiY4D2Pmqzor2FvOk2kyQGwmTc-PfndAQ504YhjYtLGxu0S0PDfk4bo8FIsTWsqiOsMmbvSp35iCky4_3l9oleJh-pAkH-jU3a3mkU-iyYGvna_fiUtjaLKM0E2RrhLDjvGl23zUaHXigHfFKo1Ay3XGgS0slm_tRLPlaiI6n5F0UjLm5GUkKazuINvwp2v" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>O <a href="https://revuethomiste.fr/contenu-editorial/chroniques/lumieres-et-grains-de-sel/fiducia-supplicans-face-au-sens-de-la-foi">padre Emmanuel Perrier publicou um texto na prestigiada Revue Thomist</a><a href="https://revuethomiste.fr/contenu-editorial/chroniques/lumieres-et-grains-de-sel/fiducia-supplicans-face-au-sens-de-la-foi"> sobre o Fiducia Supplicans</a> de Francisco que abençoa casais gays e casais "irregulares".</p><p>O texto teve <a href="https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2024/01/fiducia-supplicans-and-meaning-of-faith.html">então tradução para o inglês no site Rorate Caeli</a>. </p><p>Ótimo texto para hoje. Dia da festa de São Tomás de Aquino.</p><p>Aqui vai a tradução para o português.</p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;">Fiducia suplicantes diante do sentido da fé</span></b></p><p>por padre Emmanuel Perrier, OP.</p><p>A declaração “Fiducia suplicans” de 18 de dezembro de 2023 causou grande comoção. Neste primeiro artigo damos os principais motivos.</p><p>Filhos da Igreja fundada nos apóstolos, só podemos ficar alarmados com a perturbação no povo cristão causada por um texto vindo da comitiva do Santo Padre[1]. É insuportável ver os fiéis de Cristo perderem a confiança na palavra do pastor universal, ver os sacerdotes divididos entre o seu apego filial e as consequências práticas que este texto os obrigará a enfrentar, ver os bispos divididos. Este fenómeno de grande escala que estamos a testemunhar indica uma reacção do sensus fidei. Chamamos “senso de fé (sensus fidei)” ao apego do povo cristão às verdades relativas à fé e à moral[2]. Este apego comum, “universal” e “infalível” vem do fato de que cada crente é movido pelo único Espírito de Deus a abraçar as mesmas verdades. É por isso que, quando as afirmações relativas à fé e à moral vão contra o sensus fidei, produz-se em relação a elas um movimento instintivo de desconfiança que se manifesta colectivamente. Contudo, é necessário sondar a sua legitimidade e motivos. Aqui nos limitamos às seis razões que nos parecem mais salientes.</p><p><b>1. Não há bênção a menos que seja ordenada à salvação</b></p><p>Com efeito, «a bênção é uma ação divina que dá vida e da qual o Pai é a fonte. A sua bênção é palavra e dom” (CIC 1078). Esta origem divina indica também o seu fim, expresso com força por São Paulo: Bendito seja o Deus e Pai de nosso Senhor Jesus Cristo, que nos abençoou com toda espécie de bênçãos espirituais no céu, em Cristo. Foi assim que ele nos escolheu nele, desde antes da fundação do mundo, para sermos santos e imaculados na sua presença, no amor (Ef 1,3).</p><p>Ao recordar a origem e o fim de toda bênção, fica então claro qual é a graça que pedimos quando abençoamos: deve trazer vida divina para ser “santo e imaculado na sua presença”. <b>Portanto, não há bênção senão com vistas à santificação e à libertação do pecado, servindo assim para o louvor daquele que fez todas as coisas </b>(Ef 1:12).</p><p>Desviar-se desta ordem divina de bênção para a salvação é impossível para a Igreja. Qualquer conversa sobre bênção sem que esta bênção seja explicitamente ordenada como “santa e imaculada”, mesmo por razões louváveis, ofende imediatamente o sensus fidei.</p><p><b>2. A Igreja não sabe abençoar senão na liturgia</b></p><p>Todos são chamados a bendizer a Deus e a clamar por Suas bênçãos. A Igreja faz o mesmo e intercede pelos seus filhos. Mas entre um crente individual e a Igreja, o sujeito que age não é da mesma natureza, e esta diferença tem consequências importantes quando se considera a ação de abençoar. </p><p>Na sua raiz, as bênçãos eclesiais – e com isto queremos dizer as bênçãos da própria Igreja – emanam da unidade misteriosa e infalível que a constitui no seu ser[3]. <b>Desta unidade que a une ao seu Esposo Jesus Cristo, resulta que os pedidos que ela apresenta são sempre agradáveis a Deus, são como os pedidos do próprio Cristo ao seu Pai</b>. É por isso que, desde o início, a Igreja nunca deixou de abençoar com a certeza de obter numerosos efeitos espirituais de santificação e libertação do pecado[4]. </p><p>A bênção é, portanto, uma atividade vital da Igreja. Poderíamos falar da atividade vital do seu coração: ele é feito para garantir a circulação das bênçãos, de Deus para o homem e do homem para Deus (cf. Ep 1, 3, citado acima), segundo uma sístole difusa os benefícios divinos respondendo a uma diástole coletando súplicas humanas. Segue-se que as bênçãos eclesiais são em si uma obra sagrada. Podemos até dizer que constituem a essência da liturgia cristã, como evidenciam as fontes históricas[5]. Para a Igreja, abençoar seguindo alguma forma litúrgica não é uma opção, ela não sabe fazer de outra forma por causa do que é, por causa da atividade vital do coração eclesial. O que está ao seu alcance, porém, é definir os termos e condições das bênçãos, o seu ritual, como é o caso dos sacramentos[6].</p><p>Uma bênção, portanto, não é litúrgica porque um rito foi instituído, como se “liturgia” significasse “oficial”, ou “obrigatório”, ou “institucional”, ou “público”, ou “grau de solenidade”; ou como se “liturgia” fosse um rótulo afixado de fora a uma atividade eclesial. Uma bênção é litúrgica quando é eclesial, porque envolve o mistério da Igreja no seu ser e na sua ação. É neste contexto que o sacerdote intervém[7]. <b>Quando os fiéis se dirigem a um sacerdote para pedir a bênção da Igreja, e este sacerdote os abençoa em nome da Igreja, ele está agindo na pessoa da Igreja. É por isso que esta bênção só pode ser litúrgica, porque é a intercessão da Igreja que fornece este apoio e não a intercessão de um fiel individual.</b></p><p><b>Não surpreende, portanto, que o sensus fidei seja perturbado quando se ensina que um sacerdote, requerido como ministro de Cristo, poderia abençoar sem que esta bênção fosse uma ação sagrada da Igreja, simplesmente porque não foi estabelecido nenhum ritual. Isto equivale a dizer que ou a Igreja nem sempre age como a Noiva de Cristo, ou que ela não assume agir sempre como a Noiva de Cristo.</b></p><p><b>3. Toda bênção tem um objeto moral</b></p><p>Uma bênção se aplica a pessoas ou coisas a quem Deus concede gratuitamente um benefício. A dádiva concedida por meio de uma bênção atende, portanto, a três conjuntos de condições. — Da parte de Deus, o dom é efeito da liberalidade divina, tem sempre a sua fonte na misericórdia divina em vista da salvação. É por isso que Deus abençoa de acordo com o que Ele pretendia ser o caminho da salvação, Jesus Cristo, o Verbo encarnado, que morreu e ressuscitou para nos redimir, mas também de acordo com o que é útil para a salvação. </p><p><b>Segue-se, por um lado, que o dom não pode ser contrário à ordem criada, em particular à diferença primordial entre o bem e o mal, entre a luz e as trevas</b> (cf. 1Jo 1, 5), entre a perfeição e a privação da perfeição (cf. (Mateus 5:48). <b>Nem pode o dom divino ser contrário à ordem da graça, particularmente porque torna alguém justo diante de Deus</b> (cf. Rm 5, 1s.). Por outro lado, Deus dá de acordo com o que Ele considera apropriado dar a cada pessoa quando chegar a hora. Deus vê além de nós e quer dar mais do que esperamos. É por isso que, em particular, Ele permite tribulações, provações e sofrimentos (cf. 1P 1, 3s.; 4, 1s.) para podar o que está morto e fazer com que o que está vivo dê mais frutos (Jo 15, 2). </p><p><b>Da parte do beneficiário, a dádiva concedida por meio de uma bênção não pressupõe já ser perfeito, o que tornaria a doação inútil, mas pressupõe ter fé e humildade para reconhecer a própria imperfeição diante de Deus.</b> <b>Além disso, para que o dom tenha efeito, o coração deve estar disposto à conversão e ao arrependimento. As bênçãos não são para a estagnação moral, mas para o progresso em direção à vida eterna e ao afastamento do pecado</b>. </p><p>Finalmente, do lado do benefício em si, existe uma ordem: <b>os benefícios temporais têm em vista os bens espirituais; as virtudes naturais são apoiadas e ordenadas pelas virtudes teologais</b>; os bens para si têm em vista o amor a Deus e ao próximo; a libertação dos males corporais visa às liberdades espirituais; as forças para superar as tristezas estão em vista das forças para repelir as falhas.</p><p><b>Tudo isto mostra que as bênçãos têm sempre um objeto moral, no sentido de que a moral é a forma humana de agir para o bem e afastar-se do mal</b>: Deus dá os seus dons para que o homem pratique a justiça obedecendo aos mandamentos e avance no caminho da santidade. seguindo o exemplo de Cristo; o homem recebe estes dons como um agente racional que recebe a ajuda da graça para se tornar bom; dons são benefícios para o crescimento espiritual.</p><p><b>É portanto compreensível que o sensus fidei seja perturbado quando as bênçãos são apresentadas de tal forma que o seu significado moral se torna confuso</b>. Com efeito, o instinto de fé não está ligado apenas às verdades reveladas, mas estende-se à prática destas verdades em conformidade com a moral do Evangelho e a Lei divina (cf. por exemplo, Jc 2, 14s.). É por isso que o sensus fidei reluta em ver a bússola moral das bênçãos neutralizada ou distorcida. – Então, quando destacamos uma condição de bênção em detrimento de outras. Por exemplo, a misericórdia de Deus e o seu amor incondicional pelo pecador não impedem a finalidade desta misericórdia e deste amor incondicional, e não anulam as condições do lado do beneficiário nem a ordem dos benefícios. — Da mesma forma, quando evocamos os efeitos agradáveis (conforto, força, ternura) e nos calamos sobre os efeitos desagradáveis, quando são os caminhos necessários para a libertação (conversão, rejeição do pecado, luta contra os vícios, combate espiritual). — <b>Finalmente, quando nos limitamos a termos gerais (caridade, vida) sem indicar as consequências concretas que são a própria razão de uma bênção particular.</b></p><p><b>4. Deus não abençoa o mal, ao contrário do homem</b></p><p>Será necessário recordar que, desde as primeiras palavras da Sagrada Escritura, o Apocalipse afirma a bondade de Deus e das suas obras? Deus não está apenas vivo, Ele é Vida (Jo 14:6). Deus não é apenas bom, Ele é bom em essência (cf. Lc 18,19). É por isso que «não há um traço da mensagem cristã que não seja em parte uma resposta à questão do mal» (CIC n. 309), não só porque o homem se faz esta pergunta, mas porque, antes de mais nada, porque Deus é Deus. Na verdade, ao contrário de Deus, o homem está dividido face ao mal. Desde a queda original, ele se afastou do bem divino para preferir outros fins. Esta forma de desorganização, de perder de vista o verdadeiro bem para apontar para um bem aparente, como uma flecha que erra o alvo, a Sagrada Escritura chama-lhe pecado. O pecado é atribuível ao homem por causa de sua culpa. E por sua culpa, o homem se compromete com o mal.</p><p><b>Há, portanto, esta diferença entre Deus e o homem: Deus nunca abençoa o mal, mas sempre abençoa para libertar do mal (um dos pedidos do Pai Nosso, cf. Mt 6,13), para que o homem seja perdoado da sua culpa e cesse comprometer-se com o mal, para que não seja esmagado pelos seus pecados, mas seja redimido deles</b>. Por sua vez, a tendência do homem pecador é certamente recusar-se a abençoar o mal, mas apenas até certo ponto, isto é, até o momento em que prevaleça o seu compromisso com o mal. Chegado a este ponto, prefere “comprometer ou distorcer a medida do bem e do mal para adaptá-la às circunstâncias”, “faz da sua fraqueza o critério da verdade sobre o bem, para poder sentir-se justificado só por ele”. ”[8]. Em outras palavras, a característica das bênçãos humanas é que elas regularmente alteram o termômetro moral para acomodar uma desordem em relação ao verdadeiro bem. <b>João Paulo II apresentou assim a parábola do fariseu e do publicano (cf. Lc 18, 9-14) como figura sempre presente desta tentação: o fariseu bendiz a Deus, mas nada tem a pedir-lhe senão manter-se como está; o publicano confessa seu pecado e suplica a Deus por uma bênção de justificação. O primeiro mexeu no termômetro, o segundo é curado confiando no termômetro.</b></p><p><b>A impressão de que estamos mexendo no termômetro moral para abençoar atos desordenados só pode tornar o sensus fidei suspeito</b>. Certamente, esta suspeita precisa ser purificada de qualquer projeção numa moralidade ideal ou de uma rigidez moral válida apenas para os outros. Mas permanece o fato de que o sensus fidei atinge a nota certa quando fica alarmado com o que poderia ser atribuído a Deus por abençoar o mal. <b>Que pecador não ficaria perturbado se uma voz autoritária lhe dissesse que, em última análise, a misericórdia divina abençoa sem libertar, e que doravante ele será acompanhado na sua miséria, mas também abandonado à sua miséria?</b></p><p><b>5. Magistério: inovação implica responsabilidade</b></p><p>“A Deus que revela devemos levar a obediência da fé”[9]. Concretamente, como a inteligência conhece por meio de proposições, a obediência da fé é um assentimento voluntário a proposições verdadeiras.</p><p> Por exemplo, pela fé consideramos verdadeira a proposição: “Deus, o Pai Todo-Poderoso, é o criador do céu e da terra.” O conjunto de verdades ao qual a fé está vinculada encontra-se no “único depósito sagrado da palavra de Deus”, constituído conjuntamente pela Sagrada Tradição e pela Sagrada Escritura. Este depósito sagrado tem um único intérprete autêntico, o Magistério. </p><p>O Magistério “não está acima da palavra de Deus escrita ou transmitida”. Ele tem a responsabilidade, com a ajuda do Espírito Santo, de “ouvir com piedade, santificar e expor fielmente” a palavra de Deus quando ensina as verdades nela contidas[10]. Este ensinamento do Magistério divide-se em duas categorias[11]. O chamado Magistério “solene” é um ensinamento sem erros possíveis. As verdades ensinadas de maneira solene exigem a obediência da fé numa “completa homenagem à inteligência e à vontade”[12]: é o caso de tudo o que acaba de ser dito sobre o depósito sagrado da palavra de Deus, a função e responsabilidade do Magistério. Por outro lado, o chamado Magistério “ordinário” é um ensinamento assistido pelo Espírito Santo, que como tal deve ser recebido com uma “homenagem religiosa de inteligência e vontade”[13], embora não seja infalível a menos que é universal.</p><p>Estas recordações são importantes quando um texto, possuindo todas as formas externas de um texto dito “comum” do Magistério, pretende ensinar uma proposição qualificada como uma “contribuição específica e inovadora” que implica “um verdadeiro desenvolvimento”[14]. Neste caso, a proposição é a seguinte:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">“É possível abençoar os casais em situação irregular e os casais do mesmo sexo, numa forma que não deve ser fixada ritualmente pelas autoridades eclesiais, para não criar confusão com a bênção específica do sacramento do matrimónio” (FS , nº 31)</p></blockquote><p>Quanto à conclusão, contradiz um Responsum do mesmo Dicastério, emitido três anos antes, cuja proposição principal é a seguinte:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">“Não é lícito dar bênção a relacionamentos ou parcerias, mesmo estáveis, que envolvam prática sexual fora do casamento. A presença nestas relações de elementos positivos [não é suficiente…] pois estes elementos estão ao serviço de uma união não ordenada ao desígnio do Criador. »[15]</p></blockquote><p>Estamos, portanto, perante duas proposições, ambas afirmando-se verdadeiras por emanarem do “único intérprete autêntico” do depósito revelado, embora sejam contraditórias. Para sair desta contradição, devemos recorrer aos motivos apresentados em cada um dos textos.</p><p>A declaração Fiducia Supplicans tem o privilégio de ser mais recente[16]. Ela afirma em suas razões não contrariar o Responsum anterior: as duas proposições seriam verdadeiras, cada uma em uma relação diferente, de modo que seriam complementares. A bênção de casais do mesmo sexo a) seria de fato ilícita se fosse feita liturgicamente numa forma ritualmente fixa (solução responsum), mas b) tornar-se-ia possível se fosse feita sem rito litúrgico e “evitando que se tornasse uma bênção”. ato litúrgico ou semilitúrgico semelhante a um sacramento” (FS, n. 36).</p><p>Lendo agora o Responsum, vemos que, apesar dos esclarecimentos prestados, a contradição permanece.</p><p>Certamente evoca o perigo da confusão com a bênção nupcial à qual responde Fiducia Suplicans. <b>Mas esse não é o seu principal argumento. Como explica o texto acima mencionado, a bênção de um casal é a bênção das relações que compõem esse casal, e essas próprias relações nascem e se mantêm através das ações humanas. Conseqüentemente, se os atos humanos são desordenados (isto é, como foi dito, perdendo de vista o verdadeiro bem para se apegarem a um bem aparente), se são portanto pecados, a bênção do casal seria automaticamente a bênção de um mal, quaisquer que sejam os atos moralmente bons exercidos em outros lugares (como, por exemplo, o apoio mútuo). O argumento Responsum aplica-se, portanto, a qualquer bênção dada, ritual ou não, ligada a um sacramento ou não, pública ou privada, preparada ou espontânea. É por isso que faz deste casal um casal que a sua bênção é impossível.</b></p><p>O que emerge desta comparação é a extrema leveza com que Fiducia Supplicans assume a responsabilidade magisterial, ainda que o assunto fosse controverso e, contendo uma proposta “inovadora”, fosse necessária uma atenção redobrada às condições impostas pelo Concílio Vaticano II. </p><p>Na verdade, o texto acumula argumentos a favor de uma maior preocupação pastoral nas bênçãos, mas essa preocupação pode perfeitamente ser cumprida pelas bênçãos aos indivíduos, e nenhum dos argumentos apresentados justifica que essas bênçãos sejam realizadas nos casais. </p><p><b>Mais lamentável é que o documento se esquive à objecção central do Responsum e dilui os problemas levantados pela sua própria proposta em vez de construir um caso sólido, mostrando através do recurso à Escritura e à Tradição, a) em que condições seria possível abençoar uma realidade sem abençoar o pecado que lhe está associado, b) como esta solução se harmonizaria com o Magistério anterior.</b></p><p></p><p><b>A incoerência e a falta de responsabilidade do Magistério são, sem dúvida, causa de grande perturbação do sensus fidei. Em primeiro lugar, porque introduzem incerteza quanto às verdades efetivamente ensinadas pelo Magistério ordinário. Mais grave ainda, minam a confiança na assistência divina do Magistério e na autoridade do sucessor de Pedro, que pertencem ao depósito sagrado da Palavra de Deus.</b></p><p><b>6. Pastoral em tempos de desempoderamento hierárquico</b></p><p><b>Deus é a fonte de todas as bênçãos e o homem só pode abençoar em Nome de Deus de maneira ministerial. O poder de bênção concedido a Arão e seus filhos (Nm 6,22-27), depois aos apóstolos (Mt 10,12-13; Lc 10,5-6) e aos ministros ordenados é, portanto, uma concessão acompanhada de uma exigência , o de abençoar em Nome de Deus somente o que Deus pode abençoar</b>. </p><p><b>A história da Igreja existe para nos lembrar que a usurpação por parte dos sacerdotes do seu poder de abençoar tem como consequência desfigurar de forma duradoura o rosto de Deus entre os homens.</b> Esta seriedade exige, portanto, que tenhamos cautela no ministério pastoral de bênçãos. Deste ponto de vista, a declaração Fiducia supplicans colocou tanto o Magistério como os pastores numa situação insustentável, por três motivos.</p><p><b>Em primeiro lugar, ao sustentar que as bênçãos de casais irregulares e do mesmo sexo são possíveis desde que não tenham ritual nem liturgia, o documento promove o cuidado pastoral ao mesmo tempo que recusa que os pastores recebam indicações sobre as palavras e gestos apropriados para significar as graças dispensadas pelo Igreja</b>[17]. O<b> Dicastério também se proibiu explicitamente de regular excessos, excessos ou erros que não podem deixar de surgir, especialmente nesta área tão delicada, em grande detrimento dos fiéis a quem estas bênçãos deveriam ajudar</b>[18]. Esta renúncia à autoridade eclesial é coerente com a solução promovida. Mas o simples facto de conduzir, nesta matéria particular, a libertar o Romano Pontífice e com ele todos os bispos da sua responsabilidade pela santificação dos fiéis (munus sanctificandi), à qual estão, no entanto, vinculados pela constituição divina do 'Igreja, não pare de questionar[19]. Não está aqui em causa a margem de manobra deixada aos pastores, mas o estabelecimento de uma “clandestinidade institucionalizada” para todo um sector da actividade eclesial.</p><p><b>Em segundo lugar, o princípio introduzido por Fiducia Supplicans não conhece limites em si mesmo. Certamente, a declaração visa em particular “casais em situação irregular e casais do mesmo sexo”.</b></p><p>Deixaremos a todos a imaginação da variedade de situações que se enquadram neste quadro, das mais escabrosas às mais objectivamente escandalosas, e que, no entanto, podem ser abençoadas, assim como aos casais de boa vontade e aos feridos da vida que procuram sinceramente a ajuda de Deus. </p><p>Com efeito, ao renunciarmos aos ritos de bênção, renunciamos também à sua preparação, durante a qual os pastores julgam a oportunidade, discernem as intenções e ajudam a orientá-las corretamente. <b>Da mesma forma, ao tornar incontrolável a prática dessas bênçãos, aceitamos antecipadamente todos os excessos que ocorrerão.</b> Além disso, o título da declaração (“sobre o sentido pastoral das bênçãos”) e o seu conteúdo abrem caminho para uma aplicação muito mais ampla, já que não há razão para reservá-la ao caso dos casais. <b>Com efeito, seguindo o princípio que está no cerne do documento, seria possível abençoar qualquer situação objectiva de pecado como tal ou qualquer situação objectivamente estabelecida pelo pecado como tal, mesmo a mais contrária ao Evangelho e a mais abominável aos olhos de Deus. Tudo poderia ser abençoado... desde que não haja ritual ou liturgia.</b></p><p>Terceiro, quando os superiores transferem a responsabilidade para os inferiores, cabe aos inferiores carregar todo o fardo. Neste caso, Fiducia Supplicans convida os pastores a uma maior preocupação pastoral e as indicações que o texto dá são-lhes preciosas. Deste ponto de vista, o Magistério ajuda os ministros ordenados a exercer o seu cargo. </p><p><b>Por outro lado, ao institucionalizar a clandestinidade nos casos mais difíceis, dará origem a novos pedidos de bênção, deixando estes mesmos ministros completamente desamparados. </b>Os sacerdotes que agora serão chamados não poderão mais contar com o apoio das normas litúrgicas e episcopais para decidir o que devem fazer ou o que podem fazer. Perante pressões ou chantagens, não poderão mais esconder-se atrás da autoridade da Igreja, respondendo: “isto não é possível, a Igreja não permite”. <b>Eles não poderão mais confiar em critérios de julgamento cuidadosamente considerados sobre a oportunidade ou as direções a seguir. Terão que, em cada caso difícil, levar na consciência o peso da decisão que terão sido obrigados a tomar sozinhos, perguntando-se se foram servos fiéis ou corruptores da face de Deus entre os homens.</b></p><p>Este triplo abandono só pode ser sentido dolorosamente pelo sensus fidei, entre os pastores e entre os fiéis, como a impressão de que o rebanho é deixado à própria sorte, sem guias. Tal deficiência é certamente contrabalançada pelo incentivo a mais caridade, à atenção aos mais débeis, ao acolhimento dos que mais necessitam da ajuda divina. Mas era necessário opor-se e sacrificar um ao outro? Eles não foram feitos para apoiar um ao outro?</p><p>Fiducia Supplicans é inédito. Mesmo remontando a vários séculos, este documento Fiducia Supplicans não tem equivalente. <b>Os problemas entre o povo de Deus chegaram e não podem ser desfeitos. Temos agora de trabalhar para reparar os danos e para que as suas causas, incluindo as que referimos, sejam resolvidas antes que a explosão se espalhe. Isto só será possível permanecendo unidos em torno do Santo Padre e rezando pela unidade da Igreja.</b></p><p>Padre Emmanuel Perrier, o.p.</p><p>[1] Declaração Fiducia supplicans sobre o significado pastoral das bênçãos, do Dicastério para a Doutrina da Fé, aprovada em 18 de dezembro de 2023 [doravante FS]. Usamos duas outras abreviaturas: [CEC] para Catecismo da Igreja Católica; [CIC] para Código de Direito Canônico.</p><p>[2] Cf. Vaticano II, Lumen gentium, n. 12.</p><p>[3] Cf. Vaticano II, Lumen gentium, n. 8: a Igreja é uma comunidade constituída por Cristo e sustentada por Ele, “uma realidade única e complexa que reúne um elemento humano e um elemento divino” para trazer a salvação.</p><p>[4] Cf. Vaticano II, Sacrosanctum concilium, n. 60; n. 7.</p><p>[5] O Didache é uma testemunha notável disso. De forma mais ampla, o estudo de Louis Bouyer das primeiras orações eucarísticas mostrou que todas elas assumiram a forma de bênçãos, inspiradas no padrão herdado do Judaísmo (cf. L. Bouyer, Eucharistie, Paris, 1990). Da mesma forma, as primeiras defesas das bênçãos eclesiásticas apresentam-nas como litúrgicas. Cf. Santo Ambrósio, De patr. II, 7 (CSEL 32,2, p. 128): “benedictio [est] sanctificationis et gratiarum votiva conlatio”. Santo Agostinho, Ep. 179, 4. Sínodos dos Concílios de Cartago e Milev de 416 (cf. Agostinho, Ep 175 e 176).</p><p>[6] Há aqui um paralelo entre sacramentos e bênçãos: a Igreja só tem o poder de regular a disciplina dos sacramentos que Cristo instituiu; da mesma forma, a Igreja, sendo constituída por Cristo, só tem o poder de regular a disciplina das bênçãos que ela dá como extensão desta constituição. Hoje, as bênçãos são comumente classificadas como “sacramentais”, e isso diz muito sobre a sua proximidade com os sacramentos.</p><p>[7] Cf. Vaticano II, Presbyterorum ordinis, n. 2.</p><p>[8] João Paulo II, Veritatis splendor, n. 104.</p><p>[9] Concílio Vaticano II, Dei verbum, n. 5.</p><p>[10] Concílio Vaticano II, Dei verbum, n. 10.</p><p>[11] Uma terceira categoria foi acrescentada por João Paulo II, Ad tuendam fidem (1998), mas não é considerada aqui.</p><p>[12] Cf. Concílio Vaticano I, De fide cath. c. 3, retomado pelo Concílio Vaticano II, Dei verbum, n. 5.</p><p>[13] Cf. Vaticano II, Lumen gentium, n. 25 §1.</p><p>[14] "Apresentação" de Fiducia supplicans. Pode-se argumentar que, ao propor apenas uma “contribuição” para um campo qualificado como “pastoral”, este texto não pretende comprometer-se com as verdades da fé. Ou que, apesar das aparências, as condições do Magistério ordinário (cf. CIC 750) não foram cumpridas. Se assim fosse, o texto não pertenceria ao Magistério e poderia ser ignorado. Contudo, permanece o facto de que a reacção sensus fidei mostra que toca, pelo menos indirectamente, verdades sobre a fé e a moral.</p><p>[15] Responsum da Congregação para a Doutrina da Fé, 22 de fevereiro de 2021.</p><p>[16] Também tem um grau de autoridade mais elevado, mas isso não tem consequências, uma vez que se destina a complementar e não a substituir o Responsum.</p><p>[17]FS, n. 38-40, fornece alguns pontos de referência, apenas para orientação e em termos muito gerais.</p><p>[18]FS, n. 41: “O que é dito na presente Declaração sobre a bênção de casais do mesmo sexo é suficiente para orientar o discernimento prudente e paternal dos ministros ordenados a este respeito. sobre possíveis disposições para regular os detalhes ou aspectos práticos de bênçãos deste tipo."</p><p>[19] Cf. Vaticano II, Lumen gentium, n. 26; Christus dominus, n. 15.</p><p></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-24219099962095817882024-01-26T14:21:00.001+00:002024-01-26T14:22:56.891+00:00Geração Z: Mais Gay, Mais Ateu, Mais Esquerdista.<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj5a6G9q1Fao9th3DJnCp7gehXCUztNyD45MowXaeF_dCL9Mj-amEf76_XaHpn_tPfHQW7H-45dikG8bIMZLZGt1l0CwNRpzVdhsBqoCSWiTURM4Rzpe-iSyGq31TYBrKsiP2GDHGsgafjdfFM0L-9Azb4c8Z0IwP-xkeR8F8vZAR8Ha2pe4yLzSPX_iNYX" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="332" data-original-width="714" height="298" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj5a6G9q1Fao9th3DJnCp7gehXCUztNyD45MowXaeF_dCL9Mj-amEf76_XaHpn_tPfHQW7H-45dikG8bIMZLZGt1l0CwNRpzVdhsBqoCSWiTURM4Rzpe-iSyGq31TYBrKsiP2GDHGsgafjdfFM0L-9Azb4c8Z0IwP-xkeR8F8vZAR8Ha2pe4yLzSPX_iNYX=w640-h298" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/almost-30-gen-z-adults-claim-theyre-queer-new-poll-finds">Dados de pesquisa entre os americanos sobre a gerações, mostra que a geração Z</a> (aqueles nascidos entre 1997 e 2012, que têm hoje entre 12 e 27 anos), são bem mais gay, bem mais ateus e bem mais esquerdistas que a geração anterior. </p><p>O impacto disso é imensurável, bem maior e profundo que guerras e questões econômicas. </p><p>A própria ideia de verdade, lógica e amor são mais perturbadas na geração Z, e assim, como tudo basicamente depende de verdade, lógica e amor, tudo fica mais perdido. Desde o relacionamento familiar, até a política internacional, passando por eleições.</p><p> O gráfico acima mostra que a percentagem de pessoas que se identificam como homem e mulher é a menor de todos os tempos pesquisados. </p><p>O gráfico abaixo mostra que a geração Z é mais esquerdista que as duas gerações anteriores (Milennials e X).</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgVIXkf12ArI4YW_DlBdI0KNvDD_OP0_nRsEZFPMYojTTN0IPbtKxqzthE709PdMsdopv_nvbWWKbQMp9ms3b97pSM-LzilcVt5K1PH-Ri7lyeBb_a9LK2urPOkIgQH9Zm2DStc8TYCtL2mq40iXdxArTlC_TSGSXvVnuWEn9xpO6BNTa3k7RY3tTC_unz0" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="361" data-original-width="696" height="208" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgVIXkf12ArI4YW_DlBdI0KNvDD_OP0_nRsEZFPMYojTTN0IPbtKxqzthE709PdMsdopv_nvbWWKbQMp9ms3b97pSM-LzilcVt5K1PH-Ri7lyeBb_a9LK2urPOkIgQH9Zm2DStc8TYCtL2mq40iXdxArTlC_TSGSXvVnuWEn9xpO6BNTa3k7RY3tTC_unz0=w400-h208" width="400" /></a></div><br /><br /><p></p><p>E o último gráfico mostra que a geração Z tem a maior percentagem de gente não cristã e sem religião.</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhPMn0TjCcOmYF6vec0Jb50S-szKGM5dMkjS_WgzcilO7QJbjGrnCJWETaBMnGTG_DwgvLOGTksaO-tr63OQPt_GYlqvg7f7oIKsR_75siTPXrHSlvaunWNh1N1RohUhGnWHLDq8vlVVCiWw18_SeUIChX3z-9tAGDJ5VnROx8MzprA0C0COwZpswGO3f1y" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="375" data-original-width="689" height="217" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhPMn0TjCcOmYF6vec0Jb50S-szKGM5dMkjS_WgzcilO7QJbjGrnCJWETaBMnGTG_DwgvLOGTksaO-tr63OQPt_GYlqvg7f7oIKsR_75siTPXrHSlvaunWNh1N1RohUhGnWHLDq8vlVVCiWw18_SeUIChX3z-9tAGDJ5VnROx8MzprA0C0COwZpswGO3f1y=w400-h217" width="400" /></a></div><br /> <div>Rezemos, a estupidez só tende a aumentar entre nós. E é uma estupidez turbinada com IA, criptomoedas e controle social por chips.</div><div><br /></div>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-69783218076995471172024-01-24T13:37:00.001+00:002024-01-24T13:37:07.668+00:00História do Papado - Os Três Períodos de Pornocracia na Igreja<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjv8FbFX_6RWzD3VRfG9etvmhuVJhfy6scqYaA70h6GVisjNmvKagT22VKeH_3BTiLggeFa1n2bOhelRTbkW0-AJ7eYb6WHEzEDC1rFOs5w_VqxTguiAblEzXjlafYcCIZeEShYGwgXCxukPRBy1nN7uKi9lrIVWOykJbd2UXXzviDnFsk0vb_5eJl3XCQS/s1078/17060967257551986910325861259021.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="516" data-original-width="1078" height="191" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjv8FbFX_6RWzD3VRfG9etvmhuVJhfy6scqYaA70h6GVisjNmvKagT22VKeH_3BTiLggeFa1n2bOhelRTbkW0-AJ7eYb6WHEzEDC1rFOs5w_VqxTguiAblEzXjlafYcCIZeEShYGwgXCxukPRBy1nN7uKi9lrIVWOykJbd2UXXzviDnFsk0vb_5eJl3XCQS/w400-h191/17060967257551986910325861259021.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><p>Vivemos a Terceira Onda da Pornocracia na Igreja. <a href="https://onepeterfive.com/the-third-pornocracy-the-current-crisis-in-the-church/">Timothy Flanders escreveu sobre os três períodos no site OnePeterFive</a></p><p> 1. A Primeira Pornocracia (904-964)</p><p> 2. A Segunda Pornocracia (1471-1563)</p><p> 3. A Terceira Pornocracia (1965?-presente)</p><p>O segundo período foi pior que o primeiro e o terceiro, que vivemos, é o pior de todos. Vivemos tempos terríveis nunca vívidos na Igreja.</p><p>O texto está excelente, mostra com crueza, os três períodos, mas exalta a Igreja ao combater duas heresias: sedevacantismo e cisma.</p><p>Traduzo abaixo:</p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;">A Terceira Pornocracia: a Crise Atual na Igreja</span></b></p><p> TS Flanders 15 de janeiro de 2024</p><p>Pornocracia. O termo foi cunhado para se referir ao período que o Cardeal Baronius chamou de “idade das trevas” (saeculum obscurum): o papado do século X. Os protestantes tentaram usar este termo para desacreditar a Igreja como totalmente corrupta, mas não conseguiram perceber que o Espírito Santo tinha usado a mesma acusação contra a Igreja da Antiga Aliança, Israel:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Prostituíste-te com muitos amantes; contudo volta para mim, diz o Senhor, e eu te receberei. Levanta ao alto os teus olhos e vê onde não te prostituíste; assentaste-te nos caminhos, esperando-os como um ladrão no deserto; e poluíste a terra com as tuas fornicações e com a tua maldade (Jr. iii.1-2).</p></blockquote><p>O termo πορνεία (porneia) no grego antigo normalmente se refere à fornicação e à prostituição; mas na aliança espiritual do casamento entre Deus e Israel, também significa idolatria. Assim, a infidelidade de Israel ao único Deus verdadeiro é considerada adultério, como diz o Espírito Santo em outro lugar:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Julgue sua mãe, julgue-a: porque ela não é minha esposa e eu não sou seu marido. Deixe-a tirar as suas fornicações do seu rosto, e os seus adultérios de entre os seus seios… E visitá-la-ei nos dias de Baalim, a quem queimou incenso, e se enfeitou com os seus brincos, e com as suas jóias, e foi atrás dos seus amantes, e se esqueceu de mim, diz o Senhor. (Os. ii. 2, 4-5).</p></blockquote><p>O Novo Testamento usa πορνεία novamente para se referir tanto ao pecado sexual quanto à idolatria (cf. Mt. xix. 9; Apoc. ii. 21; xiv. 8; xvii. 2, 4). No entanto, a definição de idolatria é ampliada também para a ganância, que é idolatria (Col. iii. 5). [1] E em outro lugar o Abençoado Apóstolo os menciona juntos: </p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Pois sabei disto e entendei que nenhum fornicador, ou impuro, ou pessoa avarenta (que é um servo de ídolos), tem herança no reino de Cristo e de Deus (Ef. ...v.5).[2]</p></blockquote><p>Se isso é porneia, o que é pornocracia? Estamos vivendo a terceira pornocracia.</p><p><b><u>A Primeira Pornocracia (904-964)</u></b></p><p>Visto que porneia significa fornicação e idolatria, então a pornocracia refere-se ao governo através da corrupção da pior maneira. Significa corrupção sexual, corrupção financeira e, mais importante ainda, corrupção espiritual que aflige o Papado e o Vaticano. Tem havido corrupção na Igreja desde Judas e antes disso em Israel. No entanto, novos mínimos foram alcançados no papado do século X. A corrupção sexual e financeira do Papado por parte de famílias poderosas que disputavam o poder era exatamente como a moderna Máfia do Vaticano, voltaremos a isto mais abaixo. Assassinato, adultério, idolatria, ganância e trevas reinaram no Papado no século X. Isto atingiu o seu ponto mais baixo com o Papa João XII (955-964). Roberto de Mattei descreve este pontificado:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Segundo uma descrição unânime das fontes, o jovem Papa foi um pontífice dissoluto, que não interrompeu a sua vida de abandono imprudente em prazeres desenfreados, mesmo com a sua eleição para o Trono Papal [aos dezoito anos].</p></blockquote><p>O Papa João XII foi o papa que São Roberto Belarmino descreveu como “praticamente o pior de todos os pontífices”.[3] O Imperador Otto foi chamado a intervir, e De Mattei continua:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">O Imperador Otto convocou um Sínodo em São Pedro, no qual participaram os bispos e arcebispos de sua comitiva, os clérigos e a Cúria Romana, os líderes da cidade e representantes do povo. João XII, porém, havia abandonado a Cidade Eterna. Quando o Imperador perguntou as razões da sua ausência, os romanos responderam que elas se encontravam na imoralidade do Papa, descrita numa longa lista de crimes: simonia, sacrilégio, blasfémia, adultério, incesto, abstenção dos sacramentos, uso de de armas e tráfico com o diabo.</p></blockquote><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Todos eles, clérigos e leigos, declararam que “ele havia transformado o Palácio Santo num verdadeiro bordel” [bordel]; ‘ele cegou, seu pai espiritual, que morreu pouco depois; ele matou João, cardeal subdiácono, cortando seus órgãos genitais; ele havia provocado incêndios; ele cingiu-se com uma espada e armou-se com capacete e escudo: eles testemunharam tudo isso. Todos eles, clérigos e leigos, gritaram que ele brindaria à saúde do demônio; diziam que nos jogos de dados ele invocava a ajuda de Júpiter, Vênus e outros demônios; que não celebraria as Matinas e as Horas Canônicas, e não faria o sinal da cruz.’[4]</p></blockquote><p>Os sedevacantistas querem que acreditemos que, no entanto, os sermões e os pronunciamentos oficiais sobre a doutrina de João XII eram milagrosamente ortodoxos cem por cento puros, e o mesmo seria dito dos outros papas pornocráticos.</p><p>Mas o que diria João XII se tivesse uma conta no Twitter? E se ele desse entrevistas em um avião? Se João XII não foi suficientemente inteligente para inventar heresias, é altamente duvidoso que se pudesse confiar nele para pregar a precisão da ortodoxia nos seus discursos públicos. Eu arriscaria que o pontífice foi pelo menos ambíguo nos seus atos oficiais de ensino magisterial, que se perderam na história (como os sermões públicos). E os seus atos pessoais de devoção não deixaram margem para dúvidas.</p><p>É por isso que o clero e o povo de Roma queriam que ele fosse deposto, e de fato o fizeram, elegendo Leão VIII em seu lugar. A Igreja condena o povo de Roma como cismático? Não. Depois que Leão foi eleito, João XII ainda lutou com ele, mas o próprio Deus deu o julgamento entre eles: o Papa João XII foi assassinado pelo marido de sua amante.[5]</p><p><b><u>A Segunda Pornocracia (1471-1563)</u></b></p><p>Este período foi pior que o primeiro. Este foi o Papado Renascentista. Não havia apenas corrupção sexual e financeira, mas estes papas tinham exércitos e procuravam combater outros Estados-nação cristãos na península italiana. Júlio II, por exemplo, foi apelidado de “o papa guerreiro”, que recebeu o nome de Júlio César. Erasmo condenou a corrupção da Segunda Pornocracia com seu sardônico In Praise of Folly:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Embora aquele apóstolo diga ao nosso Salvador no evangelho, em nome de todos os outros discípulos, que deixamos tudo e te seguimos, ainda assim eles [nossos papas] desafiam como sua herança, campos, cidades, tesouros e grandes domínios; por cuja defesa, inflamados de santo zelo, lutam com fogo e espada, com grande perda e efusão de sangue cristão, pensando que são mantenedores apostólicos da esposa de Cristo, a igreja, quando assassinaram todos aqueles que a chamam inimigos; embora de fato a igreja não tenha inimigos mais sangrentos e tirânicos do que esses papas ímpios, que dão dispensas para a não pregação de Cristo; evacuar o principal efeito e desenho de nossa redenção por meio de subornos e vendas pecuniárias; adulterar o evangelho com suas interpretações forçadas e minar as tradições; e, por último, pelas suas concupiscências e maldades, entristecem o Espírito Santo e fazem as feridas do seu Salvador sangrarem novamente.[6]</p></blockquote><p>O pior papa deste período parece ter sido Alexandre VI (1492-1503). Ele foi pai de nove filhos, sete quando era cardeal com duas mulheres diferentes, e quando era papa, aos sessenta anos, convenceu Giulia Farnese, de dezenove anos, a se tornar sua concubina. Ele fez com que Annius de Viterbo produzisse uma elaborada falsificação para ele “como parte de uma campanha do Vaticano para legitimar e reforçar as reivindicações papais sobre partes da Itália”, permitindo a invasão dos exércitos do papa.[8] Estas falsificações também incluíam a ideologia racista da “maldição de Ham”, que seria usada durante séculos para justificar a expansão do antigo comércio transaariano de escravos maometano no comércio transatlântico de escravos “cristão”.[9]</p><p>Foi a Roma da Segunda Pornocracia que Martinho Lutero visitou quando era monge. Ele ficou tão escandalizado que inventou a sua própria heresia para tentar lidar com a sua raiva contra o papa e a hierarquia. Nós também podemos ficar escandalizados com a corrupção dos nossos dias e odiar o papa e os bispos; podemos ser tentados a novos erros, como o sedevacantismo, ou a erros antigos, como os cismas gregos. No entanto, veja o que aconteceu quando Lutero deixou a Igreja: criou um problema muito pior que o primeiro.</p><p><b><u>A Terceira Pornocracia (1965?-presente)</u></b></p><p>Esta terceira pornografia parece ser pior que as duas primeiras. É tão ruim que a própria Nossa Senhora desceu para nos alertar de alguma forma sobre isso. As crianças de Fátima receberam primeiro a mensagem sobre a reparação eucarística do Anjo, e depois vieram as exortações de Nossa Senhora à penitência e ao sofrimento pelos pecadores, com uma advertência sobre os erros da Rússia e a ira punitiva de Deus.</p><p><b>Não está claro quando exatamente os erros da Rússia invadiram a Igreja. Certamente parece que sob o papado de Pio XI (1922-1939) houve sérios problemas com a burocracia (pelo menos), pois o bom papa foi enganado sobre os Cristeros, o Padre Pio e a Action Française, e não consagrou a Rússia para evitar a Segunda Guerra.</b></p><p><b>Mas alguns sugerem que o Cardeal Rampolla foi a origem ainda mais cedo (o Secretário de Estado de Leão XIII)</b>, pois foi acusado de ser membro do ocultismo quando foi eleito papa em 1903 e depois vetado (último cardeal eleito que recebeu veto e não foi papa). <b>Rampolla foi acusado de ser membro da seita ocultista Ordo Templi Orientis, embora as evidências não sejam conclusivas</b>.[10] Seja como for, ele guiou as políticas moderadas (e alguns podem argumentar, liberais e maçónicas) do Papa Leão XIII, e os seus descendentes episcopais seguiriam todos uma abordagem moderada em direção á Terceira Pornocracia – Bento XV, que suprimiria o <i>Sodalitium Pianum </i>(organização secreta do Vaticano formada por clérigos que buscavam informações sobre o clero), Pio XII, que voltaria a Igreja para a América, João XXIII, que abriria o Vaticano II e, finalmente, o Papa Francisco.[11]</p><p><b>Em qualquer caso, nas décadas de 1950 e 60, a corrupção no Vaticano começava a fazer-se sentir, e a ambiguidade e as heresias doutrinárias generalizadas são o elemento que torna esta pornocracia pior do que as duas primeiras.</b> <b>Em 1975, Paulo VI encarregou o confiável Cardeal Gagnon de conduzir uma investigação. De acordo com o Pe. Charles Murr, uma das fontes vivas mais próximas deste período, o Cardeal passou três anos investigando cada pessoa no Vaticano.[12] O dossiê que ele produziu detalhava a Paulo VI que estamos vivendo a Terceira Pornocracia. E isso foi em 1978</b>.</p><p><b>O dossiê acabou sendo repassado a São João Paulo II, que a princípio não levou a sério o Cardeal Gagnon. Mas após a tentativa de assassinato contra sua vida, ele chamou de volta Gagnon e começou a reprimir a corrupção do Vaticano</b>.[13] Mas por causa das maquinações da máfia do Vaticano, a boa vontade do santo pontífice não foi suficiente. A corrupção continuou e parece ter aumentado, com contínuos escândalos no Banco do Vaticano, culminando na primeira grande revelação da pornocracia em 2002.</p><p>Bento XVI, que falou do “medo dos lobos” no seu primeiro sermão como papa, parece ter visado ainda mais a pornocracia, mas talvez a pornocracia o tenha apanhado no final. <b>Outra investigação foi conduzida, como a anterior por Gagnon, e mais uma vez (há rumores) a corrupção sexual e financeira foi revelada em 2012 em associação com o escândalo Vati-Leaks</b>.</p><p><b><span style="color: #990000;">Agora, a Máfia do Vaticano (que se transformou na Máfia de St. Gallen na década de 1990) tem o seu homem como papa: Jorge Bergoglio</span></b>.[14] <b>E ele tem se mostrado leal ao seu séquito perverso de marxistas pornocráticos que profanam o nome de católicos</b>.[15]</p><p>Ao contrário dos protestantes que viram a corrupção da Igreja e inventaram heresias para lidar com o seu trauma emocional, o Espírito Santo fala contra a prostituição de Israel nos termos mais severos, mas Deus ainda é fiel a Israel. É por isso que a Igreja pode ser imaculada, mesmo quando os homens maus corrompem as almas e até governam a Igreja. Isto ocorre porque a Igreja é na verdade governada pelo próprio Cristo, e toda a hierarquia são apenas seus vigários. São Paulo fala ao papa e aos bispos tanto quanto aos pais aqui:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Maridos, amai vossas mulheres, como também Cristo amou a igreja e se entregou por ela: para santificá-la, purificando-a pela pia de água na palavra da vida: para apresentá-la a si mesmo como igreja gloriosa, não ter mancha ou ruga, ou qualquer coisa semelhante; mas que seja santo e sem mácula... Este é um grande mistério; mas falo em Cristo e na igreja (Ef 5.25-27, 32).[16]</p></blockquote><p><b>É esta união misteriosa de Deus com o seu povo, de Cristo com a sua Igreja, que a torna pura e imaculada, aconteça o que acontecer. </b>É isto que o matrimónio manifesta sacramentalmente: o amor do cônjuge pela sua amada, no qual nada pode apagar este amor e nada pode quebrar este vínculo até à morte. Não importa o que a esposa faça.</p><p>Da mesma forma, a Igreja nunca será destruída nem poluída, mesmo na maior corrupção, pois Cristo é sempre fiel à Sua esposa. E é o Seu amor pela Sua Igreja que a faz vencer. O amor de Cristo pela Sua Igreja a torna indefectível. Como o Espírito Santo diz em Oséias, quando Deus fala sobre Israel pornocrático e adúltero:</p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Portanto, eis que eu a atrairei e a conduzirei ao deserto; e falarei ao seu coração... E será naquele dia, diz o Senhor, que ela me chamará: 'Meu marido', e ela não me chame mais de 'meu mestre'... E eu te desposarei comigo para sempre: e te desposarei comigo em justiça, e julgamento, e em misericórdia, e em compaixão. E eu te desposarei comigo com fé: e saberás que eu sou o Senhor… E direi àqueles que não eram meu povo: Tu és o meu povo: e eles dirão: Tu és o meu Deus. (Os. ii. 14, 16, 19-20, 24).</p></blockquote><p><b>É assim que devemos olhar para a actual corrupção da Igreja, esta Terceira Pornocracia, e saber que Deus fará o que sempre fez: tirar o bem do mal</b>. Como diz o Espírito Santo na pessoa de José, filho de Jacó, tipificando Cristo e Sua Igreja na crucificação e além: </p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">Você pensou o mal contra mim: mas Deus transformou isso em bem, para que ele pudesse me exaltar, como você vê atualmente, e pode salvar muitas pessoas (Gn 1. 20).</p></blockquote><p> </p><p>[1] τὴν πλεονεξίαν ἥτις ἐστὶν εἰδωλολατρία.</p><p>[2]πᾶς πόρνος ἢ ἀκάθαρτος ἢ πλεονέκτης, ὅ ἐστιν εἰδωλολάτρης, οὐκ ἔχει κληρ ονομίαν ἐν τῇ βασιλείᾳ τοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ θεοῦ.</p><p>[3] Citado por De Mattei em De Romano Pontifice, l. II, cap. XIX, em De controversiis christianae fidei, Apud Societatem Minimam, Venetii 1599, p. 689.</p><p>[4] De Mattei cita aqui De Iohanne papa et Ottone imperatore, de Paolo Chiesa, Edizioni del Galluzzo, Firenze 2018), 15.</p><p>[5] Charles Coulombe, Vigários de Cristo (Tumblar House: 2014), 132. Outras fontes sugerem que foi um ataque do diabo.</p><p>[6] Erasmo, In Praise of Folly, trad. Anônimo (Londres: 1876). Pt. 3.</p><p>[7] Steve Weidenkopf, The Real Story of Catholic History: Answering Twenty Centuries of Anti-Catholic Myths (Catholic Answers Press, 2017), 213. Deve-se notar, entretanto, que alguns estudiosos questionam a visão comum e negativa de Alexandre VI como outro lenda negra anti-espanhola. Ver Lorenzo Pigniotti, La Legenda Nera Di Papa Borgia (Fede & Cultura; 2° edição, 2016); GJ Meyer, Os Bórgias, a História Oculta (Bantam, 2014).</p><p>[8] David M. Whitford, A maldição do presunto no início da era moderna (AshGate, 2009), 44.</p><p>[9] Ibidem. Sobre o comércio transsaariano de escravos maometano, ver Tidiane N’Diaye, Le genocide voilé (Continents Noirs: 2008), bem como Bill Warner, The Doctrine of Slavery: An Islamic Institution (Center for the Study of Political Islam, 2010).</p><p>[10] A acusação é listada como “alegada” pelo arquivista da OTO Peter-Robert Koenig (Das OTO-Phaenomen, Alemanha 1994) que cita Georges Virebeau: Prelats et Franc-Maçons, Paris 1978.</p><p>[11] Randy Engel, O Rito da Sodomia (New Engel Publishing, 2012), vol. V, 1090-1093; De Roma, “'Team Bergoglio' and the Legacy of Cardinal Mariano Rampolla del Tindaro,” (10 de janeiro de 2015) https://fromrome.info/2015/01/10/team-bergoglio-and-the-legacy-of -cardinal-mariano-rampolla-del-tindaro/>, acessado em 29 de março de 2021.</p><p>[12] Isto também foi confirmado em entrevistas pessoais com Pe. Murr. Charles Murr, A Madrinha: Madre Pascalina, Um Tour de Force Feminino (2017).</p><p>[13] O relato em primeira mão de Charles Murr sobre tudo isso está contido em seu livro Assassinato no 33º Grau: A Investigação Gagnon sobre a Maçonaria do Vaticano (2022).</p><p>[14] Para um exame detalhado das fontes relativas à Máfia de St. Gallen e sua conexão com o Papa Francisco, ver Julian Meloni, The St.</p><p>[15] Para um resumo da corrupção do Papa Francisco, ver H. J. A. Sire, The Dictator Pope (Regnery: 2018); ibid., “Papa Francisco: até que ponto podemos afundar?” OnePeterFive (11 de dezembro de 2023).</p><p>[16] V. 32: τὸ μυστήριον τοῦτο μέγα ἐστίν.</p><p><br /></p><p>Timothy S. Flanders formou-se em Grego e Latim pela Grand Valley State University em 2010, com estudos especiais em história, redação e árabe. Como resultado de seus estudos, ele se converteu do protestantismo à ortodoxia oriental e começou a trabalhar em educação do jardim de infância à educação de adulto. Ele então fez mestrado em história e teologia cristã na Universidade Católica da Ucrânia. Em 2013, como resultado de mais pesquisas, ele se converteu ao catolicismo romano logo após a eleição do Papa Francisco. Em 2019 fundou The Meaning of Catholic, um apostolado leigo dedicado a unir os católicos contra os inimigos da Santa Igreja. Em 2021, ele se tornou editor-chefe da revista online OnePeterFive. Ele é autor de três livros: Introdução à Bíblia Sagrada para Católicos Tradicionais, Cidade de Deus versus Cidade do Homem: As Batalhas da Igreja desde a Antiguidade até o Presente e Quando as Portas do Inferno Prevalecem: O que os Católicos Fazem em Tempos Sombrios, bem como um próximo livro sobre a Ortodoxia Oriental, publicado pelo St. Paul Center. Ele mora em Michigan com sua esposa e seis filhos.</p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7154001673852400625.post-55154807456627564762024-01-23T18:34:00.005+00:002024-01-24T00:11:01.102+00:00Orgasmos e Genitálias em Outros Textos do Cardeal Tucho<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjZ5Ed7InKkLHeBSOfm0bNAMEAyyD6psrz01j8sTwjkPY2XSx3o7NR3byv9YUTTooN7RwwqNBaahmdUYqrxhKBlpHJ20UIAzquMjk09VwxdcBsQMoD9MaMR1WGRVYI4ck0wQwp2kRGqgqE7YIMfroR_zqyc-51ipnTa8DUMXRv32T-rzNKUEONPdqylymzJ" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="274" data-original-width="193" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjZ5Ed7InKkLHeBSOfm0bNAMEAyyD6psrz01j8sTwjkPY2XSx3o7NR3byv9YUTTooN7RwwqNBaahmdUYqrxhKBlpHJ20UIAzquMjk09VwxdcBsQMoD9MaMR1WGRVYI4ck0wQwp2kRGqgqE7YIMfroR_zqyc-51ipnTa8DUMXRv32T-rzNKUEONPdqylymzJ" width="169" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>O principal argumento do cardeal "Tucho" Fernández (foto acima) contra as críticas que recebeu sobre seus livros pornográficos, era que estes livros foram escritos quando ele era jovem e que pediu que fossem retirados pela editora.</p><p>Mas isso não é verdade, a não ser que você considere que um pessoa que tem 36 anos não é ainda adulto mentalmente e socialmente. Foi com 36 anos que ele publicou o La Pasión Mística em 1998 que contém inúmeras passagens pornográficas como se fossem teologia respeitável. É a pornoteologia de Tucho que de teologia (como exame do que seria Deus) não tem nada. </p><p>Mas eu pensei comigo mesmo: se alguém tiver a paciência de checar os outros livros de Tucho, mesmo depois de 1998, tenho certeza que ainda vai encontrar esse lixo pornô.</p><p>Não demorou muito tempo.</p><p>O site <a href="https://newdailycompass.com/en/orgasms-and-genitals-fernandezs-hot-texts-continue-to-surface">Daily Compass fez leituras de algumas outras publicações de Tucho após 1998</a>, e encontraram o quê? Isso mesmo, que você pensou, pornografia, orgasmos e genitálias.</p><p>Muito triste. Rezemos a Deus que nos console, nos perdoe e nos guie nesses tempos raivosos de tanta permissividade dentro do Vaticano.</p><p> Traduzo abaixo o que diz o site sobre outros textos de Tucho.</p><p><b><a href="https://newdailycompass.com/en/orgasms-and-genitals-fernandezs-hot-texts-continue-to-surface">PORNOTEOLOGIA</a></b></p><p><b><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="https://newdailycompass.com/en/orgasms-and-genitals-fernandezs-hot-texts-continue-to-surface">Orgasmos e genitais: os textos quentes de Fernández continuam a surgir</a></span></b></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">por Nico Spuntoni, 23 de janeiro de 2024.</span></p><p>La pasión mística, o livro “oculto” do Prefeito da Doutrina da Fé, que recentemente causou alvoroço, não foi um erro juvenil. Depois de 1998, existem outros três livros de 'Tucho' com capítulos questionáveis.</p><p>Há mais do que 'La pasión mística'. Mesmo que o Cardeal Víctor Manuel Fernández tenha tentado fazer passar o seu livro de 1998 e o seu conteúdo “quente” a um único erro juvenil, basta uma rápida olhada na sua bibliografia completa para revelar que este não é o caso. Depois do alvoroço mediático causado pela circulação de alguns capítulos obscenos da obra escrita quando tinha 36 anos, o Prefeito para a Doutrina da Fé defendeu-se perante a InfoVaticana alegando que tinha bloqueado o livro imediatamente após o seu lançamento e tinha pedido que não seja reimpresso por medo de ser mal interpretado. Mas o Daily Compass descobriu que Fernández continuou a falar sobre orgasmos e órgãos genitais nos seus ensaios teológicos mesmo depois de 1998.</p><p>Em 2004, o atual prefeito reintroduziu em “Para Liberarte de la Ansiedad y de la Impaciencia”, publicado por San Paolo, conceito já expresso em “La pasión mística”. Sobre a Palavra de Deus que nos convida a parar “em cada coisa, em cada pessoa, em cada pequeno prazer, em cada atividade”, escreveu na página 13: “Quando todo o nosso ser está unificado em uma direção, então chegamos a verdadeiro encontro, fusão, união perfeita, mesmo que por alguns minutos. Não é necessariamente uma questão de quietude física, pois essa experiência também pode ocorrer em meio à excitação de uma atividade muito intensa. Isso acontece, por exemplo, no orgasmo entre duas pessoas que se amam'.</p><p>O orgasmo místico também aparece em outro ensaio de autoria de Fernández, já com mais de 40 anos, 'Teología espiritual encarnada: profundidad espiritual en acción', também de 2004 e também publicado pela San Paolo. Na página 212, Fernández abordou o tema da vida de casal - mas, ao contrário da citação anterior, contextualizando-o na esfera conjugal - repropondo a tese já apresentada em 1998 da presença divina no ato sexual em virtude da prazer que provoca: <b>“os momentos de vida e de alegria (também sexuais) são vividos como participação na vida plena da Ressurreição</b>”.</p><p>O teólogo argentino continuou: “aqueles momentos de prazer partilhado, com todo o seu potencial de comunicação, oblação e expressão amorosa, podem ser preparados e depois vividos em gratidão durante momentos de oração partilhada. Não devem ser separados da relação com Deus como se fossem simplesmente um “pecado permitido”. O mistério da Encarnação, que faz do matrimónio um Sacramento, um sinal eficaz da graça que se consuma na união genital, mostra até que ponto Deus, ao tornar-se homem, entrou também na carne humana, convertendo a corporeidade em mediação da graça. Portanto, quando a união dos corpos foi uma verdadeira expressão de amor, deve ser celebrada na oração”.</p><p>No parágrafo intitulado “Parar”, na página 86, Fernández convidou os leitores a seguirem o exemplo de Jesus, que soube parar diante de cada ser humano com toda a atenção, e deu alguns conselhos práticos sobre como relaxar o corpo para parar melhor. O exercício recomendado pelo atual prefeito consistia em prestar “<b>atenção plena a um órgão de cada vez”. “Não se trata”, explicou Tucho, “de “pensar” naquele órgão, de imaginá-lo ou de visualizá-lo. É mais uma questão de ‘sentir’, perceber com sensibilidade. É vivenciar com calma as sensações de cada órgão, sem julgar se essas sensações são boas ou ruins, mas tentando fazer com que aquele órgão relaxe e descontraia'.</b> </p><p>As indicações eram muito precisas e incluíam uma lista de órgãos que o atual cardeal convidou a “perceber”: <b>“É melhor fazê-lo mais ou menos nesta ordem: maxilar, maçãs do rosto, garganta, nariz, olhos, testa (e todos os pequenos músculos da face), couro cabeludo, nuca, ombros, continue com o braço direito, punho e mão direita; braço esquerdo, pulso e mão esquerda. Depois nas costas. Próximo: peito, estômago, cintura, quadris, pélvis, nádegas, genitais. Até os pés."</b> Segundo o teólogo argentino, esses exercícios deveriam ajudar a parar diante de Deus. Tucho também revelou os resultados:<b> 'Em qualquer ponto do corpo devemos captar alguma sensação (de calor, queimação, prazer). Nenhuma parte da pele é insensível, mesmo que as sensações sejam muito sutis. Por fim, é importante tentar captar a totalidade do organismo, tomando consciência de todo o corpo e sentindo-o por um tempo'.</b></p><p>A sensualidade em que Fernández se deteve em "La pasión mística" e nestes outros textos que descobrimos também não falta em "Por qué no termino de sanarme?" (publicado em 2002 por San Paolo). <b>Na página 10, num parágrafo intitulado “Quando a sensualidade me obscurece”, o atual guardião da ortodoxia católica argumentou que “um corpo pode deixar a sua marca se usar as roupas certas, roupas que despertem a sensualidade acentuando formas interessantes, de acordo com o corpo”. ' e depois deu alguns exemplos: 'A sensualidade dos ombros e braços bronzeados é acentuada pelo uso de camiseta'. E ainda: ‘O pescoço nu fica mais sensual colocando uma corrente’. O teólogo argentino continuou: “Se a isso somarmos uma certa dose de fantasia por parte de quem vê, e num momento de insatisfação, quando precisa se emocionar ou desfrutar de algo, então um corpo pode aparecer como algo impressionante, maravilhoso, indispensável'.</b></p><p>Na opinião de Fernández, o gosto pessoal por um determinado tipo de característica física mudaria de época para época e nem sempre seria o mesmo: <b>'em alguns momentos da minha vida sinto-me atraído por certos tipos de encantos, mas noutro momento outros detalhes começam para me atrair: por um lado a sensibilidade do momento me faz sentir atraído por mãos finas, brancas e delicadas; outras vezes sinto-me mais atraído por mãos carnudas e quentes e essas mãos delicadas já não me bastam'. Então o que deveríamos fazer? “A única maneira de estar sempre satisfeito seria tornar-se depravado e usar sempre os outros e abandoná-los quando não precisar mais deles”</b>, observou o autor, só que depois convidou os leitores a confiarem na sua imaginação, que “pode fazer o que é limitado , como todas as criaturas desta Terra, aparecem como algo divino" em referência à variabilidade do gosto pessoal pelos corpos.</p><p><b>Em contraste com "Teología espiritual encarnada. Profundidad espiritual en acción", "Por qué no termino de sanarme?" e “Para Liberarte de la Ansiedad y de la Impaciencia” não aparecem na lista de publicações divulgadas pela Santa Sé como anexo à sua nomeação como Prefeito do Dicastério para a Doutrina da Fé em julho passado. O mesmo destino se abateu sobre o já famoso "La pasión mística", que foi talvez o texto mais marcante, mas que pelo seu estilo um tanto mórbido se enquadra perfeitamente na bibliografia de Tucho Fernández.</b></p><p></p>Pedro Erik Carneirohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07981824216067193977noreply@blogger.com0